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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The biggest problem with a drop in church attendance and faith adherence is that we're collectively losing the sense that there's something greater than ourselves -- something positive that challenges us to elevate and better ourselves for the common good during the blink of our individual existence.[/quote]

I hope you realize that you are mentioning two different things:

“Something greater than ourselves “. I don’t know what that is or means.  I certainly see no evidence for that.  Or need.

“Something that challenges us to elevate ourselves “ which I think is what we refer to as “society “.  No need for anything supernatural.[/quote]

I agree and will add that I think that “Something greater than ourselves “ is God.  Yes, he's invisible, but if you believe in him, he's real.

As for “Something that challenges us to elevate ourselves “ it can be society or other real, not supernatural (i.e., imaginary) things.

Some people, though, really need to feel more consequential than they are as individuals, and God/religion/church helps them feel that way.[/quote]

Wow

[i]“Something greater than ourselves “ is God.  Yes, he's invisible, but[b] if you believe in him, he's real[/b].  [/i]

Does that go for anything that anyone believes? [/quote]

Sure.  But most people apply it only to God.  Can you think of any other being that people believe in that is invisible?
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