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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Attendance in all civic associations has been declining for 50 years. Religions (or any volunteer clubs with attendance and service requirements) demand a lot from people; most claim they don't go due to dogmatic issues or in protest of scandal, but I think these are cop-outs. It's mostly because it's easier to not go every Sunday. Americans have just become pretty lazy and self-absorbed, and it's easier to lie around and do your phone. Mainline Protestant churches are a proof point: They've dropped almost all dogma. Anything goes, they've bent over backwards to modern sensibilities, and their attendance has declined the most. I do think we are all worse off for it. Churches used to provide the social norms that gave people purpose, and kept behavior within acceptable bounds without the use of laws, contracts, or force. This is now largely gone, and there's a cost to that. We are now a low-trust society. And yes, I know that we used to be segregated and bla bla, but guess what--we still are. Literally everyone in a given neighborhood is now an ideological clone of one another. I met an ex-Catholic recently who said she stopped going to Mass because she doesn't believe that transubstantiation is scientifically possible... ahem... yeah, we get it. At some point, [b]you just have to do the stuff and suspend your disbelief[/b].[/quote]

Or not do the stuff and not suspend your disbelief.   Maybe all of all this, there will come places for people to get the social benefits of religious institutions without having to pretend to believe in God.[/quote]

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