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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What exactly are teachers accountable for then, if not educating students? [/quote]

We're accountable [b]to[/b] our employer. [/quote]

So it's about keeping FCPS administration happy, kids education be damned?[/quote]

No, but you asked who we're accountable to, and it's our employer, same as anyone else. We complete our tasks as directed and if there is an issue with compliance, our manager will surely let us know.

You are not our manager. You also won't get me with this martyr complex.[/quote]

I asked what teachers can be held accountable [b]for[/b], you changed it to accountable [b]to[/b]. Which suggests teachers see the job not in terms of goals to accomplish, but people to keep happy. And it's not a martyr complex, it's introspection. [/quote]

Sure, I wish I could have time to give detailed feedback on each test and essay but that isn't conducive to a healthy work/life balance. My students have gone on to do great things despite my "not caring" about them so I'm not too worried. And I see my job in terms of goals to accomplish, many of which are set by our employer, who yes, we do need to keep happy.[/quote]

You're prioritizing other things. Understood. [/quote]

We are prioritizing whatever our employer tells us to - and grading has never been high on the list.[/quote]

Which is astonishing considering there can be no learning without direct, individualized feedback (which is what grading is). How on earth are children supposed to know what they are doing incorrectly? [/quote]

I’m the teacher who posted above. We receive no time during our workdays to actually provide individualized feedback. It’s expected that we spend our nights and weekends doing that.

I don’t mind working outside contract hours. I do mind that it is expected that I do it every day and every weekend.

If we want feedback to be part of a student’s school experience, as it should be, then [b]we[/b] need to provide teachers work time to do it. [/quote]

Who is we? As has been pointed out here, I'm not a teacher's boss or manager. I can't give teachers that time. It has to come from admin, and clearly it's not going to. That leaves me to hope that my child gets a teacher who will cuts corner on other duties in order to educate my child properly. And if I express dismay at this situation, I'm admonished for not being supportive of teachers. I give up. No wonder the education system is in shambles. Good luck to us all. [/quote]

You’ve given no evidence that you support us. If grading and feedback are important then get the county to give us more time.[/quote]

I express dismay at the situation teachers find themselves in and I’m admonished for not being supportive. Hence, I give up. Good luck. [/quote]

I’m a DP. I suspect the PP was reacting to the comment that you hope for a teacher who cuts corners elsewhere in order to free time for your child.

If we do that, another parent’s child suffers.

The system is absolutely the problem. Personally, I’d love to see all the non-teaching staff back in the classroom. That would lower class sizes (and shrink grading piles), which would take the pressure off teachers. I also feel I now have to buy into a ton of initiatives simply to justify these non-teaching positions. [/quote]

What would help most is teachers only having to teach 4 sections instead of 5 as a full time schedule. The other 4 blocks would be planning, grading, PLC. No duty block- hire monitors for that. No teaching a 5th section as it takes away time from the necessary things like planning and grading. But districts would have to invest in more teachers to do this and that would take away from salaries at admin building where they do … who knows what [/quote]

Yes! I’d love to see admin shrink. I feel my job gets harder as more people find non-teaching positions.[/quote]

I struggle to figure out what they do. The instructional coaches are constantly reaching out to us in the classroom to ask for ideas and advice and if we want to do curriculum creation work . Like —- can’t you guys do that?? We’re kinda busy! [/quote]

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