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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everything being said here about Wake Forest was said about Vanderbilt when I attended 35 years ago. When I toured Wake with DC, I was struck by how similar it was not just in the culture but in the sense of the college being at the same kind of inflection point. Ready to break out of its place as a top regional school and to be recognized as a top national university. Anyone matriculating now will ride the same wave that I did after graduation. [/quote] That's unlikely considering the top of the ranking is already packed and prestige begets prestige, wealth from endowments beget more wealth. Vanderbilt became renowned nationally due to being the best private university in its subregion - the interior/Appalachian South - right as the national rankings became popular due to pseudo-statistics and the internet. The same holds for Washington University in the southern Midwest, Rice in the Southwest and Emory in the deep Southeast. To a lesser extent it's true for U. Chicago and Northwestern in the Great Lakes Midwest as well. Those two were already well-regarded nationally, but US News put them into the top of the national rankings i.e. comparing favorably to the Ivies for Northwestern and to HYP for Chicago. In the Southern Mid-Atlantic states though, Duke is already king. Wake Forest is the 4th best school in its own state of North Carolina when looking at academics, prestige, name recognition and probably student quality (excluding UNC athletics).[/quote] Vanderbilt was ranked #15 nationally by the late 1980s, about a decade before the internet began to be used outside of academic and techie circles. And it became nationally renowned based on the strength of its engineering, medical, and law programs. Not for being the best school in "the Appalachian South" !?![/quote]
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