FYI - coach K’s daughter was a cheerleader at Wake while I was there

I don’t know that UNC or any other school (since you’re claiming 4th best?) is “better” than Wake. Maybe name recognition because of sports. But academic strength? Lots of my classmates chose between Duke and Wake.

Anonymous wrote:If your child is prepared for the incredible rigor, Chicago. Wake Forest is not in the same league.

University of Chicago.

Yes, hell does freeze over.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything being said here about Wake Forest was said about Vanderbilt when I attended 35 years ago. When I toured Wake with DC, I was struck by how similar it was not just in the culture but in the sense of the college being at the same kind of inflection point. Ready to break out of its place as a top regional school and to be recognized as a top national university. Anyone matriculating now will ride the same wave that I did after graduation.

That's unlikely considering the top of the ranking is already packed and prestige begets prestige, wealth from endowments beget more wealth.

Vanderbilt became renowned nationally due to being the best private university in its subregion - the interior/Appalachian South - right as the national rankings became popular due to pseudo-statistics and the internet.

The same holds for Washington University in the southern Midwest, Rice in the Southwest and Emory in the deep Southeast.

To a lesser extent it's true for U. Chicago and Northwestern in the Great Lakes Midwest as well. Those two were already well-regarded nationally, but US News put them into the top of the national rankings i.e. comparing favorably to the Ivies for Northwestern and to HYP for Chicago.

In the Southern Mid-Atlantic states though, Duke is already king. Wake Forest is the 4th best school in its own state of North Carolina when looking at academics, prestige, name recognition and probably student quality (excluding UNC athletics).

Vanderbilt was ranked #15 nationally by the late 1980s, about a decade before the internet began to be used outside of academic and techie circles. And it became nationally renowned based on the strength of its engineering, medical, and law programs. Not for being the best school in "the Appalachian South" !?!

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Anonymous wrote:Wake also has its own MBA and it’s own med school.

Wow, first time I'm hearing this, which is another way of saying those programs do not have impressive outcomes.

Clearly you're not in medicine as it's been a very strong medical school with associated residency programs for many years. I did residency at Hopkins 20 years ago and seriously considered Wake. It was on the interview trail for all my friends from Hopkins.

The Wake kids I know are more talented than the Chicago students

Anonymous wrote:Everything being said here about Wake Forest was said about Vanderbilt when I attended 35 years ago. When I toured Wake with DC, I was struck by how similar it was not just in the culture but in the sense of the college being at the same kind of inflection point. Ready to break out of its place as a top regional school and to be recognized as a top national university. Anyone matriculating now will ride the same wave that I did after graduation.

That's unlikely considering the top of the ranking is already packed and prestige begets prestige, wealth from endowments beget more wealth.

Vanderbilt became renowned nationally due to being the best private university in its subregion - the interior/Appalachian South - right as the national rankings became popular due to pseudo-statistics and the internet.

The same holds for Washington University in the southern Midwest, Rice in the Southwest and Emory in the deep Southeast.

To a lesser extent it's true for U. Chicago and Northwestern in the Great Lakes Midwest as well. Those two were already well-regarded nationally, but US News put them into the top of the national rankings i.e. comparing favorably to the Ivies for Northwestern and to HYP for Chicago.

In the Southern Mid-Atlantic states though, Duke is already king. Wake Forest is the 4th best school in its own state of North Carolina when looking at academics, prestige, name recognition and probably student quality (excluding UNC athletics).

Most of my friends from Wake who were republicans in college no longer are. I was their token liberal yankee friend then

Everything being said here about Wake Forest was said about Vanderbilt when I attended 35 years ago. When I toured Wake with DC, I was struck by how similar it was not just in the culture but in the sense of the college being at the same kind of inflection point. Ready to break out of its place as a top regional school and to be recognized as a top national university. Anyone matriculating now will ride the same wave that I did after graduation.

Vanderbilt prepared me well for Ivy for grad school. While I wish Vandy had been more racially and socio-economically diverse (as it certainly is now), I do not regret not having escaped the orthodoxy of thought that I faced in grad school. It's really interesting that southern universities are looked down upon by Chicago/HYP types for the very traits they themselves possess. Namely, a lack of inclusivity and tolerance.

Wake has a lot going for it, including a top-rate faculty. Yes, any student will -- gasp -- get to know more conservative, white, Southerners. I did during my time in Nashville, and it has served me well to realize that they aren't the fascist racist rubes of your imagination.

I really encouraged DC to apply, which she did as a "safety," and I was a little bit sorry when she chose a school that is more acceptable to DCUMers.

Anonymous wrote:Literally never heard of Wake Forest until I started perusing DCUM. Not even teens looking at colleges seem to ever talk about it. Might be a very regional school favored by white people.

You haven't heard of Woke Forest? Where every tree uses the right pronouns and the entire forest is non binary... You should visit. It's a beautiful inclusive place, but not as diverse. Everything is so ew... Green...

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Anonymous wrote:Wake also has its own MBA and it’s own med school.

Wow, first time I'm hearing this, which is another way of saying those programs do not have impressive outcomes.

Or, it’s another way of announcing that you live under a rock.

Anonymous wrote:Wake also has its own MBA and it’s own med school.

Wow, first time I'm hearing this, which is another way of saying those programs do not have impressive outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:Literally never heard of Wake Forest until I started perusing DCUM. Not even teens looking at colleges seem to ever talk about it. Might be a very regional school favored by white people.

Tell us you’re a moron without telling us you’re a moron

+1.

Anonymous wrote:Literally never heard of Wake Forest until I started perusing DCUM. Not even teens looking at colleges seem to ever talk about it. Might be a very regional school favored by white people.

Tell us you’re a moron without telling us you’re a moron

okay

Literally never heard of Wake Forest until I started perusing DCUM. Not even teens looking at colleges seem to ever talk about it. Might be a very regional school favored by white people.