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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not surprising given that most people who never wanted kids use the environment and climate as their reason. I mean, it sounds better than saying they don’t want kids because they don’t like them or don’t want to take on the responsibility. It sounds altruistic when you blame global warming while patting yourself on the back for shrinking your carbon/waste footprint.

There’s nothing wrong with not wanting kids btw. [/quote]

Both can be true. It’s not a false dichotomy like how you’re painting it original PP.[/quote]

Disagree.

Anyone who truly wants children doesn’t opt to forego kids for their one man attempt to save the environment. It’s an excuse for people who never wanted kids to begin with. [/quote]

Why does it need to be an excuse? Maybe people just don't want kids. There's nothing wrong with that.[/quote]

Correct.

And FTR, that’s what I said earlier: there’s nothing wrong with not wanting kids.

But I simply do not believe anyone who desperately wants kids—or even just wants a kid to a normal degree—would ever give that up to avoid exacerbating global warming. That’s not true. Anyone who responds to a survey like that is just reaching for an excuse that makes them look good. [/quote]

NP, but what you are missing here is that they aren’t thinking about the environment in that choice, they are thinking about what life will be like for their child.  If the future looks like it will be a dystopian hellscape, then having children because you really, really want them feels selfish.  And you can look around at other countries and easily see that anyone without a LOT of money to insulate them may be in a terrible situation in 20 years.  The competition for food alone will be dramatic in many places.  There will be displaced people all over the world from various natural disasters.  If it is a financial stretch to pay for daycare, then my child is not going to be one of the ones who flees the fire/flood/drought and goes to our winter home.  They will be one of the miserable wretches with nothing but the shirt on their back.  So it’s that vision of a beloved child having to navigate an increasingly dangerous world with the pitiful resources available to what’s left of the middle class, that makes people choose not to have kids. [/quote]

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