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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really hope they do switch back to the age groupings aligning with school year.  This current system of birth year is not pretty when they are in HS and have a fall birthday.  My daughter's team is mostly a grade ahead, she will be playing with a completely different team her senior year as the rest of the team will have graduated.  [/quote]

Translation, my kid is a September born kid. [/quote]

I love people who throw this out there as though parents of kids with fall birth dates are looking for an advantage.  I'm not the PP, but my daughter is a late October birthday.  She plays ECNL at a top club and has totally benefited from playing with "older" players the past few years.  That being said, it sucks for these kids when they are in 8th grade and there is no fall club season  (our state plays HS in the fall) because the majority of their teammates are playing HS.  Moving to grad year lets every kid have a team to play on every year.  What is the negative?  And if your kid is good enough for YNT camp invites, changing to grad year won't hurt them--they are already known.[/quote]

Aww poor 8th grade.

Blame HS soccer. The passion to play crappy HS soccer is your problem not the age cutoff. [/quote]

Facts.  HS soccer is dead weight for top players. [/quote]

Tell that to some of the GDA YNT players that still play HS.  Doesn't seem to be hurting their standing with US Soccer....  Leading scorer in U18/19 GDA last year played HS.  [/quote]

Wrong again.  95% of YNT players are coming from the DA.  The U16 team is entirely DA.  US Soccer will continue to phase out those types of players.  Every year, they select less and less.  This is no accident either. [/quote]

You clearly did not read the comment...  There are YNT players that are playing in GDA but are on waivers every season to allow them to play HS.  They are not phasing those kids out.  The leading scorer from last year in GDA (18/19) is from NEFC.  She plays HS soccer in the fall and has every year.  She was called in to the U20's in December.  She's not being phased out.[/quote]

What I didn't add is what I said after that.  It starts with phasing out the ECNL. Then they go for the part timers.  And nobody is talking about U20s.  Legacy YNT players that came up through the ECNL are what was the top at the time. They will do it through the younger age groups.  [/quote]

Sorry, but you are completely wrong.  The kids that are top players will continue to receive waivers. This does not apply to players 6-20 on a GDA roster.  Those kids are not getting a look for YNT camps anyway.   South Shore Select has a U16 player that plays up 2 years on the U18 YNT--some would argue that the club is in GDA because of this player.  She plays HS and will continue to receive a waiver for as long as she wants.  And US Soccer will continue to call her in.  The top players can do whatever they want. [/quote]

It doesn't apply to the top 1-2 players. On that I agree.  It will apply to everyone else, which is the vast majority.  If you are Tobin Heath outstanding, then you are in.  But even in YNT players, those are few and very far between.  In fact, most YNT players don't make it to U23 and beyond.  I know several players, good players, who were going to YNT events, camps, going out to California, and then slowly found themselves phased out.  [/quote]

Your argument is weak.  Anyone below top 5 on a GDA roster isn't getting a look for YNT call ups.  And if the kids that are top 1-2 are the ones that are getting called in AND can still play in HS if they choose (and many do), then US Soccer is not taking the stand that you claim.  So players 5-20 on the GDA roster follow the rules in order to preserve a potential YNT camp invite that will never happen anyway.  Makes total sense.

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I was talking top 1-2 of a YNT roster, not a GDA roster. [/quote]

So what is your point?  The top 1-2 on a YNT roster accounts for about .000001% of kids playing soccer.  If your argument is that only those GDA kids are granted waivers and/or using the roster loophole to play HS, you'd be wrong.

The replaceable kids follow the rules, the top 3-4 at any GDA club can do whatever they want.  US Soccer allows it, so GDA will never have every player give up HS.  [/quote]

My point was pretty obvious.  The top 1-2 players of a YNT roster may be exceptional and US Soccer overlooks them playing high school and other non-save.  But the general expectation is that YNT players play DA and don't play High school. [/quote]

But that completely crushes your argument that HS is "dead weight" for top players and that US Soccer will "phase out" players that don't comply.  If the top 1-2 players on a YNT can play HS and not be adversely affected, and US Soccer allows it because they continue to be called in, played up an age group, etc., then why hold "lesser" players to a rule that you don't require the top players to follow?  Same at the club level.  The players that play HS are the top players at their GDA club.  Lower level players are required to follow the rules, yet the top players manage to play HS and are still the top players when they join the team 6-7 games into the season.   [/quote]

I didn't say they weren't adversely affected.  They are just so talented in these rare exceptions that they get away with it both as players and in front of US Soccer.  I don't even know how many unicorns there really are.  Someone said that SSS has a U16 girl.  I'm not from that area or club, so I'm just taking it on faith.  All the YNT players I know of don't play High school, girls and boys.  Quite frankly, top players often find high school soccer Annoying.

But just because we can find some exception to the rule doesn't mean they aren't an exception, or that there isn't a rule. [/quote]

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