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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure why so many women here are struggling with the logical concept of "necessary but not sufficient".

Men regard sex as necessary to ensure a good marriage (fun fact: so do women).

Men do not regard sex as sufficient to ensure a good marriage (fun fact: neither do women).

No, men don't "only" want sex - they want other things too - but they think it is necessary, and if you take it away, the marriage will fall apart.[/quote]

Not really struggling.  Just summarizing.  Sex is the most important thing.  Other things like work, food, alcohol, kids can be important.  Women should prioritize sex over any other item for happy relationship.  Men may be more forgiving if women don’t do those other things if sex is good.

This is what men and women need to teach their daughters based on many of the threads on this board.[/quote]
Man here. Guilty as charged. Sex is THE most important thing to me and my gender. Yes, Teach your daughters and the world will be a happier place, divorce rates will plummet.[/quote]

Oh I think most women know this but will never truly understand. For most women, the kids would rank as most important[b]. At least that is putting someone else first. But sex first...seems very selfish. Important sure but first? No, women will never truly understand that, no.[/b] [/quote]
I'm a PP woman who has stated that, yes, sex is #1 for men even as they do of course love their children... and I agree with your post. It is selfish. That's why I stated that most men would be fine with never having kids so that they don't have to be responsible for another human being other than themselves.  IMO, men are inherently selfish in this regard.  I don't know if it's biological or cultural, but it just is.

And women don't understand it, can't grasp the concept of not having children as the #1 priority in life, and that is why so many parents with younger children are unhappy. I say "younger" because as the kids get older, you don't have to prioritize the kids' needs/wants as much, so you can start focusing on each other.  That's where we are at now, and yes, now sex is much more of a priority. It wasn't to me when the kids were younger.

IMO, it's a two way street.. women need to understand where men are coming from, but men, too, need to understand the woman's wants/needs if they want a happy relationship.[/quote]

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