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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP you will find the preschool programs vary widely. You definitely want to check them out.

When I was in Florida, my son was in a preschool for kids with language delays. It was brilliant and he started putting together phrases immediately.

Then we moved, and he was in a special ed preschool in the morning, and a regular preschool in the afternoon. At conference time, the special ed teacher told me he was severely delayed, likely autistic, didn't know any of his colors or letters and didn't play with anyone.

The next day, I had a conference at the typical preschool. The teacher told me he was doing wonderfully knew all his letters and colors, played with everyone, and was the smartest kid in the room!

Same kid. Different teachers. Different programs. Different preconceived notions.[/quote]

It's also true that many regular ed teachers aren't as aware of subtle ASD characteristics if the child is bright and high functioning.[/quote]

[b]The point is that feedback from non-experts doesn't always give you the best information. [/b]I found this to be true in preschool -- the teachers were either bizarrely off the mark; or just wanted to keep parents happy and would give positive feedback only. The best preschool teacher we had for feedback had preciously been a DCPS sped teacher, who both understood what disabilities "look like" and also what the K classroom demands.

WTF does this have to do with this post?  [/quote][/quote]
When you get widely varying reports from different teachers, it's helpful to have an educational consultant observe both classes.[/quote]

Some publics, like ours would never let an educational consultant in and the best response would be for child to stay at the private where they are thriving as clearly the public set up is not meeting the child's needs.  We did't go to a SN school with SN teachers and it was far better.  They were patient, kind and took the time to actually teach, which publics no longer do.  Structured/repetitive learning is often best for language kids, which is why Montessori's and other less structured programs are not recommended, and things like centers are not best either.[/quote]
Not everyone can afford private.  I've never had a problem getting a consultant to observe in public school, and if a school ever refused the request, I would push back really hard.[/quote]

The privates we have been at are $10K and often they have financial aide if you need. it.  Cheaper than an evaluation and consultant/advocate.  And, better.[/quote]

Why would you avoid an evaluation? That makes no sense. And there are no 10k privates in the DC area. [/quote]

No need to avoid one but cost and need. We know our child’s strengths and needs.  Teacher agrees.  So, why do more when we have done plenty.  Plus if child is in regular services the needs should present there. [/quote]
Because without an evaluation, there is a very good chance that you and the teacher are missing something important.[/quote]

No, we aren't missing anything.  Publics do lots of testing, you see your child's grades and if you supplement at home, you know where your child is and what they need.  Kids need good evaluations but not every 6-12 months.  They need a few good ones early on and then as needed.  Not all kids with language or other issues have academic issues but need supports due to their disability.  [/quote]

Public school testing is often inadequate unless your child's needs are very simple or you have no disagreement with the school.  Nobody gets a neuropsych every 6 to 12 months, that's insane.  Every three years is recommended but not everybody needs even that.  If your kid has a language disorder but you haven't gotten a neuropsych, then there is a very good chance you missed something.

Also many of us have issues at home as well as school, and that adds an extra wrinkle to everything.[/quote]

You are protecting your advice onto others assuming the situations are similar.  Yes, if kids are struggling at home and school, its good to get an evaluation. Some of us do know what is going on and what is needed so a new evaluation offers nothing at the present time.  Some of us don't have struggles at home.  OP should get a private evaluation if there has not been one but OP never said.  OP should also get private services as well as the school is not going to provide enough for a child with language needs.[/quote]

I am not projecting anything.  OP made clear she has not any private evaluations and autism is suspected.  In such cases, an assessment for autism is a good idea.  If your kid has a language disorder it's a good idea to get a neuropsych to look for needs, because so many kids have more than one SN.  "Knowing what is going on" is not a substitute for thorough testing.  It just isn't.  Maybe it worked out for you, but it's bad advice in general.[/quote]

Not all kids with language disorders have academic or other issues.  I'm not understanding why you don't understand it.  If a child is at or above grade level on every subject, then what exactly is one looking for.  How would that be a good use of money.  If there are no behavioral issues at home or school, how would that be a good use of money.

OP child is young.  You don't do a neuropsych on a child that age.  Its not developmentally appropriate.  Nor is it appropriate to assume a 3 year old will have learning differences.  [/quote]

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