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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why would you be upset about something so small? Dedication and pride in one's country (native or adopted) should not be an issue. [u]Your kid should stand because it's not about the President, it's about the women and men in the armed forces who serve [b]EACH.AND.EVERY.DAY.[/b] so that your kid has certain freedoms.[/u][i] Why can't you and your child have respect for these people? Why are you being so hostile about your child being grateful for the freedoms that he currently has?[/quote]

This is arrant nonsense.  Rather, it is a right wing talking point - a post facto justification in an attempt to shame people into acting the way the right wing deems appropriate.

Can you please point to the part that references the members of the armed forces?  Like many people on this thread, I have said the Pledge well over a thousand times, so I will save you the trouble - you can't.  It doesn't exist.  So, for you, the Pledge is about honoring servicemen and women.  But you decided that for yourself.  And like you, the rest of us get to decide for ourselves.  For some, it is about democratic ideals; for others, it is about a belief in a nation that we grew up believing is great; for others, it is incompatible with their deeply held religious beliefs (and I'll wager that in other contexts, you are really big on "religious freedom," just not when it is a different religion); and for others, it (and the flag) are symbols of oppression of various groups of people.   You don't get to tell anyone what the Pledge, or the flag, means to them, and the hubris to think you can is directly contrary to being "grateful for the freedoms" you claim to support.  [/quote]

Why do you object to standing for the flag?  Seriously.  As for our military, they fight for what the flag represents.  It sounds to me like you do not like our country.  Just because you CAN sit, does not mean it is not disrespectful to others in the class or to our military who fight for the flag and country.  It is disrespectful not to stand.  If you don't choose to say the pledge, that's on you.  No one notices, I guess.  If they do, it shows who you are (unless you are not a citizen of this country.)  It shows that you put your personal gripes over country.  You can protest policies.  You can protest our leaders.  That's fine.  But, you should not be protesting our country and what it stands for.  The flag is a symbol.  That is why people get upset when the football players kneel.  They are using the freedom the flag stands for to protest what the flag stands for.  It's kind of counterintuitive.

Sure, Kapernick has the right to kneel.  And, people have the right to object to what he is doing.  It shows what he is--someone who is ungrateful for the opportunities he has been given.  He has plenty of opportunities to object to policies and behaviors outside of thumbing his nose at our country.[/quote]

[b]All of this above and Kaepernick wonders why he is currently a free agent. He got cute and people voted with their wallets. OP, is trying to get her kid ostracized. Because if I had a kid in her class and my kid told me that her kid couldn't have the decency to stand, that kid would not be invited to playdates or my home, alongside his wacko parents.[/b][/quote]

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