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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because when I took prescribed opioid medication, my depression and anxiety vanished. I felt content, engaged in my relationships, job, and surroundings, and for the first time I felt like I wasn't in a desperate slog, faking it to get by one more day. Opiates make some people feel good. Very, very good. Why is that difficult to understand? If you can't relate, consider yourself extremely fortunate.[/quote]

It is not a fortune. It is years and years of hard work on own character, discipline, education, moral values. Some people work hard to develop that, and some pop the pill. [/quote]

[b]You also believe that no poor people would be poor if they just worked harder, right?[/b]

Personal choices do, of course, factor into the equation. But so do genetics &, in many cases, misfortune.[/quote]

It depends. I personally don't know anyone who worked hard and remain poor in US. It is totally possible in another countries. And I am a first generation immigrant who came here with less than $200, no English, and no job prospects. [/quote]

Really? What about every nanny, bus boy, landscaper and kitchen worker in America? They work harder than just about everyone. They will most likely always be poor. [/quote]

NP.  She left out a crucial part - work hard and work smart.  Part of that is valuing education in your kids, not blowing your money on stupid stuff that adds up quickly, knowing how save and budget, and what to do with it.

I came here as a kid with almost nothing with my parents and they also worked low paying jobs (white collar but low paying). They saved every penny and never, ever ate out (maybe once a year), didn't buy any luxuries (my mom bought a necklace once and that was a big deal), and were able to purchase a 4 bed 2.5 bath house with two cars eventually.  Plenty of immigrants do better than they did.  Pretty middle class now, but not poor anymore.

IMHO, very possible[b], with the right cultural influence[/b] and personal choices.[/quote]

Yes, and those cultural influences are largely a matter of luck. You were fortunate enough to be born into a family & culture that values upward mobility & has a realistic notion of how to achieve it. Not everybody raised in an environment that fosters the belief that working hard & living frugally can break the generational cycle of poverty they see all around them.[/quote]

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