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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have found that with some White people, this idea of integration and inclusion is a sham. The reason being that the “default” standard for integration is based on White norms. In other words, Whites want POC who integrate to meet them on their playing field – meet them in their safe space. The question I have for Whites who somehow think these types of ceremonies are divisive is whether you are willing to “cross the aisle” in the name of inclusion and integration. Would you join a Black church? How about a Black sorority? Would you join an Asian chamber of commerce organization? Or is it that you expect POC to abandon their traditions and norms to integrate with you? Just curious. Instead of condemning these ceremonies, ask if you can attend. My grad school roommate was Asian and I attended the university’s Asian celebration to support her. Her family and others there appreciated that I was willing to embrace what they were doing and support her. [/quote] You make a good point and cool that you put yourself out there like that. You know, when black people have a separate event, many white people get bent out of shape. Those same people couldn't care less if asians or hispanics have a similar type event. Some people just don't like what they see. They see the crime, they see the riots, they see the black people constantly complaining, suck at school, acting like animals at times. Hell, young guys can't even pull their pants up. When you see this crap for decades, you eventually just get sick of it. These are massive generalizations, but they are true. This has nothing to do with you or anyone on an individual level. There will be tons of people that will be combative and talk sh*t, but we all see this BS more among black people than any other group. If white people, or anyone for that matter, says they have a great, positive opinion of the black community, they are lying to you. I'm sure there are many positive attributes as well, but relative to other groups, not so much. So that is why I think you see the double standard. Peoples perceptions will change when they start liking what they see. On a positive note, race relations are much improved since I was a kid and there are a LOT more African Americans in the burbs/middle class than ever before. And no, I didn't vote for Trump and I've banged women of every race/demographic, even 1 fat one. [/quote] I am not sure why that would apply here. First off, many people on this forum have said that there is no "THE Black community." Blacks are not a monolith. This is a graduation celebration at an elite university. It is utterly ridiculous that someone would lump them in with anyone else just because they are Black. If people cannot draw the distinction between individual Black people, that is their prejudice. These students are not rioting or committing crimes. They are doing what many Whites are urging Blacks to do - be educated, be professional and set high goals. Most of us do not really care if Whites "like what they see" but this is exactly what they SHOULD be liking. According to many Whites, these students are doing what they say "THE" Black community should be doing. Yet, they are being criticized because in celebrating their accomplishments, they are having a ceremony IN ADDITION to the larger one. They are not "segregating" themselves by skipping the larger one - they are attending both. It is absolutely crazy that people are so in a tizzy about this. It is puzzling. [/quote]
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