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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You know what decrease the number of deaths by gun violence?  Yep, stricter gun laws, especially for those with mental health issues.  What's Trump doing about that?  I know what the R congress just did regarding people with mental health issues and access to guns.[/quote]>
Then you know that during the last months of the Obama administration, the Social Security Adiministration EXPANDED the definition of "mental health" to include, among others, those on social security disability insurance (not just "mental") and those who have their financial affairs handled by a third party, right?  And you know that under the Trump administration, it was this recent EXPANSION of regulatory power that was undone?  You know that, right?  If you don't. you might want to read a little deeper into the issue before offering your advocacy of limiting the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.[/quote]

I am an SSA attorney, and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None. Obama's rule says that if you need a rep payee for SSI/SSDI due to mental illness, then you can't buy a gun.  Now, getting SSI/SSDI on mental illness alone is tough.  A combination of mental illness, physical illness, over age 55 and less than a high school education-- much less so.  But just mental illness is a high bar. You blow way past anxiety, depression and even somewhat controllable bipolar, and are looking at things psychosis and schizophrenia.  A good rule of thumb: you have been committed for at least three two week periods in the last year.   And getting a rep. Payee is even harder. You have to be that mentally ill plus incompetent. In many cases, rep payees are used because someone has a serious substance abuse history too, or an IQ below 60 and there is no way they will use the money for housing and foot. They will give it away or buy drugs.  Now, you would think that common sense dictates that a psychotic person having a gun is a bad thing.  But in case it doesn't, consider this. Most SMI peripheral will not use their gun to kill someone else. They will kill themselves. Because you have to be a danger to yourself to be committed for 3 two week periods a year.

In completely UNRELATED news, SSA did just change the criteria for mental illness.  However,  those laws went into effect this month, and no one knows how it will play out IRL. But, it takes known problems with applying the current guidelines and tries to correct them. Right now, the system is too subjective and focuses on the wrong things. This is an attempt to get a more uniform result and have less guesswork.  My initial read on it is that fewer people will qualify, not more.  But that we will do a better job at getting the people we should.  It will be a couple years before we know, because of the backlog.  But, this change has nothing to do with the rep payee gun law.

TLDR:  you're an idiot PP. [/quote]

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