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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities.  That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.[/quote]

That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them. [/quote]

You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians). [/quote]

DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia. [/quote]

Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt? [/quote]

Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction.  What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations?  Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians?  There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days.  Did your guy give up the coordinates?[/quote]
Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right? 
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Wow you guys work fast.  I just heard about tonight's unstoppable hypersonic khinzal and came to laugh about how last century's patriot missile batteries shot them down again.  But you all were on top of things and ready.  Kudos to your work ethic.  It must be so difficult to keep up appearances these days.[/quote]

This is a very tired tactic of accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a troll
I simply don’t think that there is joy in children dying[/quote]
You disagreeing is not an issue. The issue is that people like you constantly repeat Russian propaganda talking points. It's tiresome. You're not being a critical, original thinker. You're just parroting the lies the Russian government is spreading through social media.  [/quote]

But it's not like there's only one set of talking points in this space, is it? Ukraine has its own propaganda machine and it is churning out material nonstop.  There's no much original thought there either.  Everyone is parroting someone.[/quote]

I understand that Ukraine is churning out propaganda, but I also understand, because I'm not an idiot, that there's no "two sides" to this conflict. Anyone who thinks there is, is falling for Russian propaganda that is intended to break the resolve of the US and our allies to support an (imperfect) democracy in a war of national survival. Maybe we've gotten used to ambiguous wars, because the US has fought in so many of them. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is not one of them.

I have to wonder what someone is thinking if they look at this conflict and conclude that somehow Ukraine is more than 5% responsible for the war. And that Russia has some legitimate points. [/quote]

You’re probably chatting with an AI bot or someone paid to post pro-Russia dialogue if you see something overly supportive. That’s the truth. There are literal buildings filled with paid trolls who either seek to distract or do a firehose of propaganda in forums where the topic of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is being discussed, so the topic ends and posters just give up talking. It appears to be happening here as well. Just ignore them and bring the conversation back into focus.[/quote]

If only. The sad truth is that Russia's propaganda arsenal is as outdated as its munitions. They won't even allow pro-Russia dissidents to use derelict .SU domains. They are essentially not fighting an info war at all because their country is run by Russian boomers. The accusations of Russian propaganda is pure projectionism. Look up the Smith-Mundt Modernization act and learn how it became legal for the US government to aim their propaganda at a domestic audience.

What you are up against are a ragtag bunch of isolationists, peaceniks and nationalists. Many of us feel NATO is the real aggressor here, with the 2014 coup and subsequent shelling of the Donbass as the start of this conflict. There are even some hardcore leftists on our side. Its a real awkward band of brothers, but you oppose warmongers with the allies you have, not the allies you want. [/quote]

This is correct from what I can see[/quote]

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