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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To address OPs point, I'd say that it just makes home life easier.  There are sooo many little problems that are lessened, or just disappear once you segregate out the majority of troublemakers from the class.  The teachers are on top of their curriculum, have more time for individual engagement with more children instead of the ones falling behind, and my child isn't being used as an indirect tutor to help the class progress.  My needs for home enrichment actually decreased as DC appears to be staying engaged in class and progressing, which wasn't happening in K-2nd.  Maybe it's my child's increased maturity (I doubt it), but there are less distractions and social implications to be worried about that makes for less anxiety and fights at home.

I'd say it's 100% not about the stated "advanced" nature, and the benefits are more intrinsic based on the peer group differences.  I recognize it's elitist, but it's working for us.[/quote]

+100 the peer group is miles above the gen ed peer group. I had one kid who got into AAP and one who didn’t. The one who didn’t unfortunately was influenced by the lack of academic rigor from gen Ed over the years - doesn’t want to/isn’t used to working hard, doesn’t know how to study for tests, doesn’t seem to care as much about school. Cares more about being popular. We notice that more of the gen Ed girls are all about clothes, make up and nails by 6th grade whereas the AAP girls are not.[/quote]

AAP 6th grade teacher here. My AAP girls are ALL about brand names!![/quote]
Next thing you'll tell us is how much you are into brands yourself. [/quote]

Kids are kids, some are into brands and some are into sports and some are into books and some are into math, that incudes AAP kids. There are AAP kids who are problems with regulation and there are well behaved kids in AAP. There are kids who are brand obsessed and kids who could careless in AAP. Too many people on this board want to portray AAP as this bastion of amazingly well behaved kids who are all young academics learning from each other when it is a classroom filled with a small number of gifted kids, a lot of advanced kids, and some kids who work really hard. It is probably more parental involvement that leads to kids being ahead and reasonably well behaved then anything else.

The AAP descriptions match the language immersion descriptions and there is not a selection committee for language immersion. You end up with fewer kids with serious, or even moderate, learning issues. Fewer kids with behavior issues. Mainly you end up with a classroom full of kids whose parents are involved and actively seleccting programs that they think will challenge their kid. [/quote]

This. Not all of the AAP kids are super studious. In my career, I have had studious, athletes, musicians, popular kids, etc. They are kids like everyone else. They say the same lingo and watch the same stupid YouTube videos.

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The point is that AAP does not have the [b]bottom tier kids [/b]who are disrupting class with chair throwing, or taking up all the teacher's time because they can't do math from two grade levels ago. Even if there are a lot of average kids who don't exactly "deserve" to be there, not having that bottom tier makes the learning environment so much better. That's a big reason why people want AAP. It's also true in opt-in dual language programs, you're not going to have  parents of bottom tier kids signing up for that either because it's too demanding for the kids at the bottom.[/quote]

“Bottom tier kids”. I hope you are a troll. I do not know one parent in my child’s AAP center that thinks of kids in terms of “tiers”- although if there was one, we certainly would not be friends with them. [/quote]

No one says it out loud but everyone certainly thinks it. Except you of course, on your very high horse.[/quote]

I don't know if we all look down on those kids the way you seem to.  I know a lot of kids through coaching and they're not all academically inclined but they are all fine young boys and I deliberately expose my son to them in the hopes he makes friends with them.  [/quote]

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