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Do jews really believe that God somehow just chose them as a people despite whether they believed in him or not?[/quote]

The Jews as a people, as a collective, affirmed that they wanted to be bound by his laws (belief that he existed is not presented as really a question in Genesis - people believed in the existence of gods whom they did not follow).   But they bound themselves and their descendants, without condition.   [/quote]

Why would jews chose to be bound by laws of a god they didn't believe in? Genesis 15:6 seems to say that Abraham believed in God as one example. One translation: "Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness" another "Abram put his faith in the Lord, who attributed it to him as an act of righteousness." There are several covenants and this one with Abraham was with an individual. Regarding the  covenant in Exodus, there seem to be a lot of things tied to this agreement by both God and jews. Not just an outright promise despite not obeying or believing in him. "Now, if you obey me completely and keep my covenant, you will be my treasured possession among all peoples, though all the earth is mine.  6 You will be to me a kingdom of priests, a holy nation. That is what you must tell the Israelites." What covenant discusses a covenant given to or accepted by the Israelites without any kind of attachment back to God?[/quote]

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