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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know much about the Presbyterians, but as somebody who has spent a lot of time in the Episcopal church as an adult only (not born and raised in the church), here's my two cents. I liked that the Episcopals are very similar to the Catholics (at least on paper), with similar services/masses, reading schedule, similar rituals, etc, but increasingly the church is just making stuff up as they go that isn't rooted in scripture or liturgy. I could give many examples, but in my church for example, our priests have rejected the teaching of no sex before marriage. One of the priests said that such a teaching is simply unrealistic in today's world, so there's no need to even talk about it anymore. The Episcopals are very welcoming to all, but the emphasis is on belonging rather than believing in anything. Even among clergy there are very inconsistent beliefs on core liturgy. In my former church, we recited the Nicene Creed, yet one of the priests openly rejects most of what is contained in the Creed. There's no talk whatsoever about sin, yet lots of talk about racial issues, gun control, gay rights, etc. Differing voices have no forum and receive no concern. My takeaway was that the church loved everybody until somebody disagreed, and then all bets were off. The extreme liberalism and stray from scripture has caused about half of Episcopal congregations to break off from the national US church and join the more conservative African churches (called the schism). Attendance in the remaining US churches keeps falling at a rapid rate. Basically, the Episcopal Church is a place where you can believe anything you want and you'll always get a pat on the back no matter what you do, say, or believe. In the end, that wasn't appealing to me and wasn't allowing me to grow either personally or spiritually, so I left the church.[/quote]

I think this proves that if you're conservative, OP, then the Episcopal church is probably not for you.[/quote]

[b]You don't even have to be conservative to have an issue with the Episcopal church today. Episcopals have always been a more moderate to liberal Protestant denomination, and even the moderates are breaking away from the national church.[/quote][/b]

Well, said, and to the first PPs point - those that break away are usually now aligned with the Anglican communion worldwide and now has its own Bishopric and Assembly in the U.S.A.   The Episcopal church died after Bishop Shori's term (she was asked to leave after seven years) leaving 300 million in debt caused by her venemous litigation against departing congregations.  The Episcopal NY headquarters have had to be sold to pay litigation fees, as well as any unused Episcopal properties in the USA.  Membership in the Epis. Church of the USA is down to an all time low since the 60's to only 1.6 M members.  The Anglicans have 80 million members worldwide, second only to Catholicisim and the Orthodox Churches, so is the third largest Christian denomination in the world.  You will see continued expansionism of Anglicanism in the USA in the the next few decades.  Anglicanism picks up the ex-Catholics, the ex-Episcopalians, the former Baptists, and some orthodox evanglistic christians.  [/quote]

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