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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From an outsider's perspective, I wonder if you could explain why Palestinians and their supporters often continue to use the word "martyrs" to refer to Gazans killed in this conflict.  The pain and devastation is obvious and palpable, yet I believe the language suggests to many Americans that Hamas treats killed "martrys" as their currency in trade.

I wish for a world with fewer martyrs and more children growing up with their basic needs met. [/quote]

Totally agree. People who eagerly and willingly engage in war can't turn around and say how horrible war is. If you are against war, don't engage in war.[/quote]

A man once said "Give me liberty, or give me death!" and urged the local population to launch an armed rebellion in order to seek independence from an unwanted occupier. That man, Patrick Henry, later became the governor of Virginia and is honored as one of America's esteemed founding fathers. To think that those lost in America's war of independence might be considered nothing but "currency in trade". 
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I think this kind of misses the point of the question, which Muslima actually addressed.

I don't recall reading that Patrick Henry extolled the deaths of young children as part of the cost of doing battle with the British.  My question was directed at trying to understand what the term "martyrs" means in the context of the conflict in Gaza.  The explanation was that, while it is an honorific, it shouldn't be understood or portrayed as always meaning that a death is a cause for celebration, as opposed to respect or veneration.  Those who have watched the destruction in Gaza intuitively knew this must be the case, but Muslima addressed the underlying issue, which is that sometimes words mean different things to different people.[/quote]

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