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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do you want them to be?

While Americans may want those jobs, it is unlikely they would ever get them. Do you think a company wants to go through all of the hassle of hiring layers and dealing with immigration. It’s because that’s who is the most qualified for the job. No one is stopping you from applying. [/quote]

Most of the companies hiring in H-1B visas are large multinational corporations. They aren't hiring a lawyer to process a single H-1B visa. They have a team of in house immigration lawyers who process visa applications, often in multiple countries, for scores of employees every year.

And it's just not true that there are no Americans qualified fur these jobs. Usually they are simply jobs with a high degree of competition for qualified applicants-- the program helps reduce competition for those jobs, which is great for companies but not for the skilled American workers who are qualified for these roles.

And even if there is a shortage of qualified American applicants, shouldn't the US be seeking to educate more citizens for these good, high paying jobs? Quite often H-1B applicants attended US universities to obtain the specialized knowledge needed for these jobs. Foreign students at top American universities keep increasing. These are most often kids of wealthy families who can afford to pay the full cost of international tuition. Isn't part of the argument with Trump that qualifies white Americans are being kept out of top schools by "DEI" candidates? Well a huge amount of the "diversity" at top schools is wealthy foreign nationals.

So it's like a scheme whereby universities give spots that could go to Americans to foreign students in the name of diversity (even though really it's about the higher tuition they can charge these full pay applicants), and then those students use these degrees to get jobs their corporate employees  claim there are too few Americans qualified for.

It just seems like if Americans are pissed off about immigrants taking jobs and resources, the H-1B program is a great example of a system designed to screw over Americans. Whereas I don't know a single American who is upset about not being able to get a job picking fruit or de-boning chickens at a processing plant.[/quote]
So, basically, you don't believe in capitalism.

Also, you might want to tell Trump that his Truth Social company offshored some of their IT jobs.  If these companies can't get those visas, they'll just offshore more of the jobs, taking the tax base with it.[/quote]

I didn't vote for Trump and think he's a grade A a$$hat. And capitalism isn't something you "believe" in -- it's an economic system that can work well but also has to be regulated. We regulate capitalism in the US in lots of different ways. Trump's proposed tariffs and deportation plans are both intended to be checks on capitalism in the name of protecting American citizens and their access to jobs. Most capitalist countries have at least some restrictions on immigration in order to protect citizens.

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in suggesting that we round up and deport a bunch of migrant workers doing jobs that Americans fundamentally do not want while not talking about an entire group of immigrants who have jobs Americans do want, that pay well and and offer greater security. And the argument is "oh well we don't have enough qualified Americans" but then a lot of H-1B visa holders were educated in the US at US universities where Americans want to attend and currently get rejected in favor of "diverse" candidates who aren't actually diverse (many of these students code as white), simply wealthy.

Why are we talking about deporting millions of workers doing jobs we won't be able to fill when those workers are gone but we say nothing about the workers taking jobs Americans would love to fill if given the opportunity, while many Americans are deprived of the opportunity to gain the necessary education to get these jobs due to American university spots being filled by foreign students who buy their way in?

I'm just asking questions.[/quote]
Because those visa holders are here *legally*.

Why do they offshore jobs?  That's called capitalism.  The minute you start talking regulation, Rs would call you a socialist.

Basically, MAGA are populists. They want regulations and taxes to protect American workers -- America first.  But, they don't want government to interfere with business outside of that.  They want good paying jobs, but they don't want any regulations that ensure it (ie, minimum wage). They want benefits, but they don't like ACA.

MAGA are dumb.  The things that they want are things that Dems were trying to provide.

MAGA think corporations should take care of its employees, but even Trump's hotels hire visa and undocumented workers.[/quote]

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