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This. Having this list organized by competiveness is theoretically a great idea, but practically impossible.

[b]Why[/b]?[/quote]

See the PP point about variation by age group, number of teams, tournament competition level, overall tournament difficulty, etc.

For example--winning 6 matches in open at a local mixed tournament is a lot easier than winning six matches in middle division at a qualifier, which is six matches in open at a regional tournament which is a lot easier than winning 6 matches in either open or national or USA in USA nationals or their equivalents at AAU nationals.

Now consider if team goes 6-0 at the local tournament and 0-6 at a qualifier, how do we know who is more competitive? You can't, unless you know who they played.  The whole reason AES exists is to try to solve that problem by comparing teams as they play each other. It generally does decently well if you look at the national ranks and not the regional ranks.  There are exceptions--there are some clubs/teams in the region that overweight on local tournaments, especially mixed tournaments where there is high variability in competition.

[i]The closest proxy we have to a real tier list is who is trying for regional bids, and the system that CHRVA uses to do that is.....AES national ranking.[/i]

You can see who attended bids for 2024 [url]https://results.advancedeventsystems.com/event/PTAwMDAwMzM2MDI90/home[/url] and 2023 [url]https://results.advancedeventsystems.com/event/PTAwMDAwMzAwMzA90/home[/url] on AES as well.

Personally, I'd look more at the clubs that attended than the specific teams, because it will tell you the clubs that are capable of getting teams into the bid tournament.  Because there are usually teams that at some of those clubs that elect not to compete for bids due to scheduling or lack of desire to attend nationals.  At the U12 level last year, around half of the top 12 teams didn't try for a bid.[/quote]

Whoops, typo.  Should have said 
For example--winning 6 matches in at a local mixed tournament is a lot easier than winning six matches in middle division at a qualifier, which is a easier than winning 6 matches in either open or national or USA in USA nationals or their equivalents at AAU nationals.[/quote]

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