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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I rarely read George Will but loved his citation of Wm Buckley's: “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” It reminded me of all these faux "gee how can anyone support Romney" threads which turn into more bashing of conservatives.[/quote] This is a straw man argument, and a weak one at that. To the degree that liberals are intolerant of conservative viewpoints, they are usually based on the inherent intolerance espoused in the views, or the policy that would otherwise restrict one's liberties. Otherwise, most good liberals are perfectly open to hearing and considering viewpoints that may be different than their own. It's just when those other views essentially are intolerant in and of themselves that liberals stop listening. That is not inconsistent. Not all viewpoints are valid.[/quote] i.e., You value your own "valid and intolerant" opinions above all! Thanks for the reminder![/quote] No, and I'll thank you again for never again putting words in my mouth or deliberately twisting what I say. Liberals are exceedingly tolerant. They welcome all views. UNTIL those views involve the infringement of others' rights. For example, a liberal is willing to tolerate a discussion on voter rights. But the minute a conservative starts advocating voter ID laws as a thinly-disguised attempt to disenfranchise lots of voters, I'm no longer interested in what you have to say. It's not a valid opinion since voter fraud is not an actual problem. The minute a conservative starts trying to restrict women's rights to make decisions about their own bodies, same thing. Your opinions are not valid. Tolerance does not mean everything is equal and valid. I can hear you out, decide you're not worthy of my time (or citizenship in this country even) and tune you out and shout you down, and that is entirely consistent. Democrats and liberals believe in personal freedom and equal opportunity. Conservatives tend to not.[/quote] Once again, your statements reveal your high opinion of your own beliefs and views, as well as your low regard for conservative opinions. That's fine because freedom of speech is one of our country's greatest freedoms, but you're not sounding like a person who's tolerant of views different than your own. [/quote]
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