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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What a fortuitous coincidence that exactly when W&M could greatly benefit from helping the downtrodden, the country finds itself with an abundance of ambitious first-generation college-age immigrants whom the progressives in Williamsburg would probably welcome with open arms. [/quote] The do. WM is now tuition free for Pell grant students, and these students graduate at a high rate. They are welcome and supported. The question is, should WM do soft/hard DEI targets like VT, even at the expense of taking more qualified students? I have a kid who went through TJ during the admissions criteria change, and am inclined to say no. [/quote] +1 I think W&M should stay committed to its high academic standards--it's what will ultimately stand the test of time. Being tuition-free for Pell grant students who qualify makes so much sense--actively recruiting strong low-income students who might not be familiar with W&M, sure. Adjusting your admissions criteria to favor first gen students is wrong IMO--and though it made VT rise in the rankings, I don't think it's a great move overall for the institution or the state. I'm a progressive, but I think this generates backlash and does a disservice to students. The point should be about removing barriers to attendance for all not adjusting admissions criteria to strongly favor a group--especially in a public institution. I don't have any students applying to college right now so it's not about what will help my kid get in somewhere.[/quote] Agree with slight adjustment: "...actively recruiting [u]strong[/u] low-income [b]& first gen students [/b]who might not be familiar with W&M, sure. Adjusting your admissions criteria to favor first gen students [b]& Pell Grant[/b] is wrong IMO..." Our strong first gen DD is very happy at W&M and so are several of her classmates, some of them Pell Grant qualified. One was offered a W&M scholarship and it was the deciding factor for that girl between UVA and W&M. All came from adv academics magnet school. The quality of students is par with UVA (only a smidgen lower on the low end). I understand the campus is not for everyone, and it will always be more self-selecting than the other big state publics. However, changes are coming. Dorms and dining facility will be much improved in roughly 2 years, a new Science Building with the addition of Design/Engineering (are they going to start offering some engineering I wonder). [/quote]
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