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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I get where you’re coming from OP.

As a non-transgender person I would think the goal is transition and total passing and never or rarely having to identify yourself as a trans man or woman. Then you’d just be a man or woman without the trans identifier. But that’s not the case from what I see, being trans is an identity in and of itself to be proud of and claim.

I don’t know. I don’t understand most of it and that’s okay. I listen and try to be respectful. [/quote]

Many trans people have a goal of passing, we obsess about it.  Many trans women spend tens of thousands of dollars on painful facial feminization surgery where they cut the skin at the hairline and peel it all the way down.  Then the bone on the jaw is shaved down.  The bone on the brow ridge is shaved.  The hairline might be moved down.  A few other things like work on the nose as well can happen.  Then the skin is put back in place and down back on.  We don’t get this because we don’t care if we pass or not.  It hurts and recovery is long.  I haven’t had it done but I may at some point.

In terms of trans as an identity, well I mean sure.  It’s who we are.  Trans people are very uncommon so it’s nice to know other trans people and discuss what we are dealing with or thinking about with others in similar circumstances.[/quote]

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