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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Eager to hear Liberals here respond to OP’s excellent questions.... [/quote] I don't know any liberals who want to protect violent criminals. Also, your quote on Elrich: ", according to Elrich, "Our law enforcement and other support agencies will continue to follow local laws, rules and regulations. As a matter of policy, we do not inquire about anyone's immigration status to support immigration enforcement, nor do we conduct immigration raids or investigations." " How is that counter to Obama's administration? Local law enforcement aren't supposed to be doing the job of the feds. Did Obama administration ask MoCo to do immigration raids and ask every brown looking person what their legal status is? [b]From an article I read, Moco law enforcement did contact ICE about this guy being released. There is a local ICE unit in Baltimore that could've come and gotten him.[/b] I'm 100% ok with ICE and local law enforcement going after violent criminals, of any persuasion be they legally here or not. So, why isn't ICE spending it's limited time and resources and doing this rather than raiding farms and meat packing plants rounding up workers?[/quote] I read that same article. (OP here) But bureaucratic measures send a message - https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2019/07/leaders-in-montgomery-co-will-not-cooperate-with-ice/ [quote]Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich aims to put distance between Maryland’s most populous county and federal immigration authorities by signing an executive order Monday. Elrich said he wants to tell all county agencies that they are not allowed to ask people about their immigration status or cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “The Promoting Community Trust Executive Order aims to reaffirm current county policy and improve community security by ensuring that immigrant and otherwise vulnerable communities can engage with county departments,” Elrich’s office said in a statement.[/quote] [quote]Jones said if ICE seeks to deport someone who is in police custody, then ICE needs to track that person independently and deal with the situation without the police department’s assistance.[/quote] So while this has been the practice, I fail to see how it's good practice. It's very hard to know a person's background when s/he is under the radar. This protects the predators who have ruined the lives of women and children. If you've got a clean record (immigration status aside), what's the fear?? And how many other countries give illegal immigrants the benefit of the doubt? We may look at the stats and think - "Eh, it's only 6 predators and a few kids and women. Statistics are low. Women and children are harmed daily by our local 'homegrown' folks. " This is the main argument I hear. But w/o knowing each person's background in depth (b/c you know those rapists and pedophiles were doing the same thing back home), you put ALL children and women at risk - both legal and undocumented. PEP - under Obama - I provided the link in the original post. [quote]How it works PEP begins at the state and local level when an individual is arrested and booked by a law enforcement officer for a criminal violation and his or her fingerprints are submitted to the FBI for criminal history and warrant checks. This same biometric data is also sent to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) so that ICE can determine whether the individual is a priority for removal, consistent with the DHS enforcement priorities described in former Secretary Johnson’s November 20, 2014 Secure Communities memorandum. Under PEP, ICE will seek the transfer of a removable individual when that individual has been convicted of an offense listed under the DHS civil immigration enforcement priorities, has intentionally participated in an organized criminal gang to further the illegal activity of the gang, or poses a danger to national security.[/quote] It was still - imo - a** backward. If you enter the country ILLEGALLY, I want to know as much as possible about your background. I want to know who you are. Sure people can lie, and certainly there are people who can live here - illegally - for years before committing heinous acts. But if we overlook status, don't you think these crimes will continue under the radar for a longer period of time? And the chances of someone illegal staying in the same place for a long duration are slim to none. Transience, in other words, is high. I don't think we need to conduct RAIDS in order to find out status. There are more humane ways of gathering information, but yes, I'd like to know. [/quote] But again, it's not the job of local law enforcement to find out the status. MoCo police didn't stop and ask for status during Obama administration, and they don't today. I don't see what's changed in that regard. If MoCo didn't contact ICE at all when they were about to release a violent criminal, then yes, that would be wrong and upsetting, but that is not what happened here. Also, are you saying that MoCo isn't submitting fingerprints of violent criminals to the FBI database? If they are not, then yes, they would be going against the law, but if they are, then what exactly is MoCo doing wrong? As you noted in your post, immigration activists were even against Obama's administration on deporting even most violent criminals. Again, I don't see what has changed? Are you just annoyed that Elrich put out a release that stated that local law enforcement won't be doing the fed's job of asking for legal status and rounding up illegals? It's been that way for a while, so again, not sure why Elrich's press release has you so upset. And btw, I did not vote for Elrich.[/quote]
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