CDC planning to release new guidance on how K-12 students can physically return to classroom. 7/6/20

Anonymous
Another question, in addition to the 6 foot rule, is whether to adhere to the CDC guidance when there’s a positive or suspected case. That would require the school to shut down all areas where the student has been for 48 hours for cleaning, and send home any students or staff who did not maintain the 6 foot distance for 14 day pbservation. Which might result in a lot of abrupt school closures, particularly if tests contninue to be slow and they need to treat every kid with a fever, cough or upset stomach as a presumptive positive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another question, in addition to the 6 foot rule, is whether to adhere to the CDC guidance when there’s a positive or suspected case. That would require the school to shut down all areas where the student has been for 48 hours for cleaning, and send home any students or staff who did not maintain the 6 foot distance for 14 day pbservation. Which might result in a lot of abrupt school closures, particularly if tests contninue to be slow and they need to treat every kid with a fever, cough or upset stomach as a presumptive positive.


That guidance is pretty clearly outdated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

The problem is its increasing in other states and people have been traveling so they will bring it back here. Many ICU beds in some states are completely full. Is that a risk you want to take? I don't. We should have stayed quarantined for the summer.


I'm going to cancel my cookout this evening because it's raining in the Midwest and we know the weather doesn't stay put.

-you, in happier times
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:WaPo: CDC will issue new guidelines on school openings, Pence says, after criticism from Trump

The guidelines with the science are too inconvenient and annoying, so we'll just pull it out of our butts to placate President Idiot. Why are we relying on the CDC like gospel again? They've been ruined by politics like everything else. I don't see why I should believe anything they say is actually based on evidence and will keep us safe. I'm sick of being gaslighted.


I think it gives schools an "out" in terms of liability. If they open up while following those guidelines, and some people get sick, it's hard to get sued for it if they were just following the guidelines.
dcmom
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone state and jurisdiction posts the numbers. Do the research.


The eight benchmarks that have been met or shown “substantial progress” include:

● Number of new COVID-19 related deaths: 1 (three-day average); 13 declining days
● COVID-19 related hospitalizations: 113 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● COVID-19 related intensive care unit hospitalizations: 40 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Acute care bed utilization rate: 64% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● ICU bed utilization rate: 49% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 80% or less has been met for 14 days
● Percentage of ventilators in use: 31% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● Test positivity: 5% (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Test administered: 1,716 (three-day average); the county is reporting that it has 4.3% testing capacity in the last 30 days; the county’s goal is 5%

The two benchmarks that haven’t been met are:
● Number of new confirmed cases: 83 (three-day average); eight declining days
● Number of COVID-19 related emergency room patients: 5 (three-day average); 10 declining days.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/coronavirus/after-one-day-jump-montgomery-county-covid-19-case-increase-again-below-1/


The problem is its increasing in other states and people have been traveling so they will bring it back here. Many ICU beds in some states are completely full. Is that a risk you want to take? I don't. We should have stayed quarantined for the summer.


DP. Yes, it’s a risk that I am willing to take. But if you aren’t, you won’t have to; everyone will have a 100% DL option.
dcmom
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dcmom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone state and jurisdiction posts the numbers. Do the research.


The eight benchmarks that have been met or shown “substantial progress” include:

● Number of new COVID-19 related deaths: 1 (three-day average); 13 declining days
● COVID-19 related hospitalizations: 113 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● COVID-19 related intensive care unit hospitalizations: 40 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Acute care bed utilization rate: 64% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● ICU bed utilization rate: 49% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 80% or less has been met for 14 days
● Percentage of ventilators in use: 31% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● Test positivity: 5% (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Test administered: 1,716 (three-day average); the county is reporting that it has 4.3% testing capacity in the last 30 days; the county’s goal is 5%

The two benchmarks that haven’t been met are:
● Number of new confirmed cases: 83 (three-day average); eight declining days
● Number of COVID-19 related emergency room patients: 5 (three-day average); 10 declining days.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/coronavirus/after-one-day-jump-montgomery-county-covid-19-case-increase-again-below-1/


The problem is its increasing in other states and people have been traveling so they will bring it back here. Many ICU beds in some states are completely full. Is that a risk you want to take? I don't. We should have stayed quarantined for the summer.


DP. Yes, it’s a risk that I am willing to take. But if you aren’t, you won’t have to; everyone will have a 100% DL option.


Also, I meant to add: I also think we opened too early and should have stayed quarantined longer. But that doesn’t change my view now that given the numbers in the area, and assuming they stay like this, I would send my kid to school (and would respect the decision of other parents not to send their kids). They are tracking stats carefully, and if they get worse they can pull back from in-person learning, and as they get better, they can add more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in an email conversation with the superintendent and BOE of a school system in a more rural part of MD where we own a second home. They're saying they can't open full-time because the rule of only 15 kids/classroom (I guess based on 6 foot social distancing guidelines).

Per this thread, as I understand it CDC now says they can relax that for schools. Does anyone have a link to the actual CDC guidelines? I found this link but it's dated from May:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html

They may not be following all the latest news as closely, so if I can point them to CDC guidelines that will alllow less spacing in classrooms, that may convince them.


You are coming from the outside the jurisdiction and want to convince this jurisdiction to change their plans, so you can have full-time school for your kid? Do you see yourself?


They haven't made their plans yet. I'm trying to help them, and yes I will admit my goal is for them to have the information that may help them decide in favor of in-person schooling. Being a smaller district, they don't have the resources in terms of staff compared to MCPS. They're probably busy with a million other things as well, and may not have the staff dedicated to following the latest guidance from CDC, AAP, etc as closely. I'd like to provide that to them.

I'm still amazed they actually write back to me. I'd never expect Jack Smith at MCPS to write back to any emails.


Who would want to send their kid to a school that couldn't stay on top of the CDC guidelines? Also do they not have google?
Anonymous
They haven't made their plans yet. I'm trying to help them, and yes I will admit my goal is for them to have the information that may help them decide in favor of in-person schooling. Being a smaller district, they don't have the resources in terms of staff compared to MCPS. They're probably busy with a million other things as well, and may not have the staff dedicated to following the latest guidance from CDC, AAP, etc as closely. I'd like to provide that to them.

I'm still amazed they actually write back to me. I'd never expect Jack Smith at MCPS to write back to any emails.


I’m sure you didn’t intend it to sound this way, but this has a real air of “educated city folk educating the country bumpkins.”
Anonymous
dcmom wrote:
dcmom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone state and jurisdiction posts the numbers. Do the research.


The eight benchmarks that have been met or shown “substantial progress” include:

● Number of new COVID-19 related deaths: 1 (three-day average); 13 declining days
● COVID-19 related hospitalizations: 113 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● COVID-19 related intensive care unit hospitalizations: 40 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Acute care bed utilization rate: 64% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● ICU bed utilization rate: 49% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 80% or less has been met for 14 days
● Percentage of ventilators in use: 31% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● Test positivity: 5% (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Test administered: 1,716 (three-day average); the county is reporting that it has 4.3% testing capacity in the last 30 days; the county’s goal is 5%

The two benchmarks that haven’t been met are:
● Number of new confirmed cases: 83 (three-day average); eight declining days
● Number of COVID-19 related emergency room patients: 5 (three-day average); 10 declining days.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/coronavirus/after-one-day-jump-montgomery-county-covid-19-case-increase-again-below-1/


The problem is its increasing in other states and people have been traveling so they will bring it back here. Many ICU beds in some states are completely full. Is that a risk you want to take? I don't. We should have stayed quarantined for the summer.


DP. Yes, it’s a risk that I am willing to take. But if you aren’t, you won’t have to; everyone will have a 100% DL option.


Also, I meant to add: I also think we opened too early and should have stayed quarantined longer. But that doesn’t change my view now that given the numbers in the area, and assuming they stay like this, I would send my kid to school (and would respect the decision of other parents not to send their kids). They are tracking stats carefully, and if they get worse they can pull back from in-person learning, and as they get better, they can add more.


Probably should've have remained shutdown. The rates have been going up here and will probably accelerate within one two weeks from now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
They haven't made their plans yet. I'm trying to help them, and yes I will admit my goal is for them to have the information that may help them decide in favor of in-person schooling. Being a smaller district, they don't have the resources in terms of staff compared to MCPS. They're probably busy with a million other things as well, and may not have the staff dedicated to following the latest guidance from CDC, AAP, etc as closely. I'd like to provide that to them.

I'm still amazed they actually write back to me. I'd never expect Jack Smith at MCPS to write back to any emails.


I’m sure you didn’t intend it to sound this way, but this has a real air of “educated city folk educating the country bumpkins.”


The new CDC guidance written by President Trump is so much better than that old guidance written by so. called health experts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
They haven't made their plans yet. I'm trying to help them, and yes I will admit my goal is for them to have the information that may help them decide in favor of in-person schooling. Being a smaller district, they don't have the resources in terms of staff compared to MCPS. They're probably busy with a million other things as well, and may not have the staff dedicated to following the latest guidance from CDC, AAP, etc as closely. I'd like to provide that to them.

I'm still amazed they actually write back to me. I'd never expect Jack Smith at MCPS to write back to any emails.


I’m sure you didn’t intend it to sound this way, but this has a real air of “educated city folk educating the country bumpkins.”


The new CDC guidance written by President Trump is so much better than that old guidance written by so. called health experts.


Go away, troll.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
They haven't made their plans yet. I'm trying to help them, and yes I will admit my goal is for them to have the information that may help them decide in favor of in-person schooling. Being a smaller district, they don't have the resources in terms of staff compared to MCPS. They're probably busy with a million other things as well, and may not have the staff dedicated to following the latest guidance from CDC, AAP, etc as closely. I'd like to provide that to them.

I'm still amazed they actually write back to me. I'd never expect Jack Smith at MCPS to write back to any emails.


I’m sure you didn’t intend it to sound this way, but this has a real air of “educated city folk educating the country bumpkins.”


The new CDC guidance written by President Trump is so much better than that old guidance written by so. called health experts.


The "experts" fail to grasp that we must reopen whatever the cost.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
dcmom wrote:
dcmom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Everyone state and jurisdiction posts the numbers. Do the research.


The eight benchmarks that have been met or shown “substantial progress” include:

● Number of new COVID-19 related deaths: 1 (three-day average); 13 declining days
● COVID-19 related hospitalizations: 113 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● COVID-19 related intensive care unit hospitalizations: 40 (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Acute care bed utilization rate: 64% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● ICU bed utilization rate: 49% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 80% or less has been met for 14 days
● Percentage of ventilators in use: 31% (three-day average); the county’s goal of 70% or less has been met for 14 days
● Test positivity: 5% (three-day average); 14 declining days
● Test administered: 1,716 (three-day average); the county is reporting that it has 4.3% testing capacity in the last 30 days; the county’s goal is 5%

The two benchmarks that haven’t been met are:
● Number of new confirmed cases: 83 (three-day average); eight declining days
● Number of COVID-19 related emergency room patients: 5 (three-day average); 10 declining days.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/coronavirus/after-one-day-jump-montgomery-county-covid-19-case-increase-again-below-1/


The problem is its increasing in other states and people have been traveling so they will bring it back here. Many ICU beds in some states are completely full. Is that a risk you want to take? I don't. We should have stayed quarantined for the summer.


DP. Yes, it’s a risk that I am willing to take. But if you aren’t, you won’t have to; everyone will have a 100% DL option.


Also, I meant to add: I also think we opened too early and should have stayed quarantined longer. But that doesn’t change my view now that given the numbers in the area, and assuming they stay like this, I would send my kid to school (and would respect the decision of other parents not to send their kids). They are tracking stats carefully, and if they get worse they can pull back from in-person learning, and as they get better, they can add more.


Probably should've have remained shutdown. The rates have been going up here and will probably accelerate within one two weeks from now.


If that’s the case, then the data dashboard will show it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
They haven't made their plans yet. I'm trying to help them, and yes I will admit my goal is for them to have the information that may help them decide in favor of in-person schooling. Being a smaller district, they don't have the resources in terms of staff compared to MCPS. They're probably busy with a million other things as well, and may not have the staff dedicated to following the latest guidance from CDC, AAP, etc as closely. I'd like to provide that to them.

I'm still amazed they actually write back to me. I'd never expect Jack Smith at MCPS to write back to any emails.


I’m sure you didn’t intend it to sound this way, but this has a real air of “educated city folk educating the country bumpkins.”


The new CDC guidance written by President Trump is so much better than that old guidance written by so. called health experts.


Because it says what you want it to say?
Anonymous
lol I believe that was ironic
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