CDC planning to release new guidance on how K-12 students can physically return to classroom. 7/6/20

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, but how, given that the CDC also says that people should stay 6' apart, especially when in doors. Maybe other schools have 15 kids per class, but we have 32 per class here in many classrooms.

Based on studies and data, Massachusetts was comfortable dropping the 6’ limit for schools and bussing down to 3’. All towns are moving forward using the 3’ distance, which significantly increases capacity.

3' with mask is fine, but 3' without masks is not fine. How are they going to eat with a mask on or staying 6' apart during lunch with their masks off? Even if they eat in the classrooms, if they class is full (30 kids) you can't even get 3' apart.

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Anonymous wrote:They must think opening schools will help trumps reelection or will bolster the economy right before november. if it all turns to shit in november/december, they don't really care.

I can't think of any other reason why new recommendations would come at this time. If the new guidance recommends fewer mitigation measures, it must have detailed information about the reasons for backing off. We need studies and actual science. Otherwise, it will seem like yet another manipulation of the public to get Trump reelected.

This is a standard we haven't required from any other essential function of society.

Transparent, scientific explanations should be required when recommendations are changing. If six feet of social distancing is recommended outside, and the CDC is now going to say that 2 feet is enough, they should explain why they have retreated from the earlier recommendations.

This is a standard we haven't required from any other essential function of society.

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Anonymous wrote:"First to reopen and last to close"? You're months late on this, CDC. MONTHS.

CDC and the rest of the health care professionals have never seen anything like this before. We are learning more as we go. They are making decisions based on the information that we have now. They didn't have the same information we have now three months ago.

This isn't making new decisions based on new information. This is realizing, IN JULY, "omg what about school?!"

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Anonymous wrote:Won’t everyone be bummed when MCPS goes full DL for the fall. It’s hard to fault the CDC re timing because what is known about the virus increases week by week, but it’s too late for the county to switch if it already is developing a plan. And not having to plan for DL is going to give you another situation like this spring. If the Fed govt threw $250m at the county to have two plans in place, then I could see having an in-person option, too.

They don't plan to go full dL in the fall. There is also going to be the option of 2 days a week in person. Stop spreading false info. The number in moco are really good and getting better daily. At this rate they really should be doing full f2f in the fall anyway which will require much less money and planning.

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Anonymous wrote:They must think opening schools will help trumps reelection or will bolster the economy right before november. if it all turns to shit in november/december, they don't really care.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

Yup. Kids returning to school really gets jobs & the economy going. Trumps only reelection platform is based upon jobs & the economy.

I actually think the timing will work against him. Schools open in August/September and there will be a HUGE upswing in mid to late October. People are going to be p’ed off and want change

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Anonymous wrote:Won’t everyone be bummed when MCPS goes full DL for the fall. It’s hard to fault the CDC re timing because what is known about the virus increases week by week, but it’s too late for the county to switch if it already is developing a plan. And not having to plan for DL is going to give you another situation like this spring. If the Fed govt threw $250m at the county to have two plans in place, then I could see having an in-person option, too.

They don't plan to go full dL in the fall. There is also going to be the option of 2 days a week in person. Stop spreading false info. The number in moco are really good and getting better daily. At this rate they really should be doing full f2f in the fall anyway which will require much less money and planning.

A few principals have already told some students/parents that school will start with DL.

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Good. Hope moronic Virginia takes notice of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Won’t everyone be bummed when MCPS goes full DL for the fall. It’s hard to fault the CDC re timing because what is known about the virus increases week by week, but it’s too late for the county to switch if it already is developing a plan. And not having to plan for DL is going to give you another situation like this spring. If the Fed govt threw $250m at the county to have two plans in place, then I could see having an in-person option, too.

They don't plan to go full dL in the fall. There is also going to be the option of 2 days a week in person. Stop spreading false info. The number in moco are really good and getting better daily. At this rate they really should be doing full f2f in the fall anyway which will require much less money and planning.

A few principals have already told some students/parents that school will start with DL.

And I've told my guinea pigs that carrots grow on trees. The factual basis of both statements is equal.

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Teachers will revolt, and I don’t blame them. They don’t want kids coughing and sneezing in their faces all day long. This won’t come to pass this fall. Schools don’t have proper ventilation. This is a recipe for disaster. Look at what happened in Israel. The government gave in to public pressure and reopened things too quickly and they are now experiencing a huge resurgence. Opening schools before a vaccine is pure folly. I don’t care what the CDC says. They are bowing to the mob if they think schools can open in person.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers will revolt, and I don’t blame them. They don’t want kids coughing and sneezing in their faces all day long. This won’t come to pass this fall. Schools don’t have proper ventilation. This is a recipe for disaster. Look at what happened in Israel. The government gave in to public pressure and reopened things too quickly and they are now experiencing a huge resurgence. Opening schools before a vaccine is pure folly. I don’t care what the CDC says. They are bowing to the mob if they think schools can open in person.

That's what facemasks are for, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, given that many districts are well into the process for making these decisions, this guidance would have been more helpful a month ago.

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seriously! they are the ones who caused all the issues with the desks six feet apart nonsense. Did the people who wrote that not have kids or not have kids in public school?

What difference does that make? If a recommendation is scientifically true, it is true whether it is inconvenient or not. The CDC suddenly coming up with new recommendations to placate complainers under an administration that clearly prioritizes pretending everything is fine above reality and if we just tested less, we could keep life going and let people die quietly behind the scenes, doesn't fill me with any confidence at all. "Oh, 6 feet isn't necessary, it's actually 2 feet!" Riiiight. Show me the data.

People in March: We can’t get masks.
CDC in March: you don’t need masks.
CDC later: Masks save lives.

Schools in July: We can’t space kids 6 feet apart.
CDC in July: 2 feet is fine.
CDC in October, probably: 6-10 feet apart saves lives.

This, exactly.

The CDC is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Won’t everyone be bummed when MCPS goes full DL for the fall. It’s hard to fault the CDC re timing because what is known about the virus increases week by week, but it’s too late for the county to switch if it already is developing a plan. And not having to plan for DL is going to give you another situation like this spring. If the Fed govt threw $250m at the county to have two plans in place, then I could see having an in-person option, too.

They don't plan to go full dL in the fall. There is also going to be the option of 2 days a week in person. Stop spreading false info. The number in moco are really good and getting better daily. At this rate they really should be doing full f2f in the fall anyway which will require much less money and planning.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:From CNN today: 7/6/20
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is planning to release new guidance on how K-12 students can physically return to the classroom this year, according to a senior CDC official with knowledge of the discussions.

The recommendation was presented internally to leaders at the CDC early last week and is “a priority this week,” according to the senior official. Over the weekend, senior officials at the agency presented CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield with details on the science behind why schools should reopen, the source said. The specifics of the guidance were not available.

“Schools should be the first to open and the last to close,” the official said. “Kids need to physically be in school."
The officials comments' echo that of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which put out new guidance last week that "…strongly advocates that all policy considerations for the coming school year should start with a goal of having students physically present in school.”

Thank you OP for posting this. Kids need to go to school.

Kids need to go to school and come back not sick. Every day.

There FTFY.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers will revolt, and I don’t blame them. They don’t want kids coughing and sneezing in their faces all day long. This won’t come to pass this fall. Schools don’t have proper ventilation. This is a recipe for disaster. Look at what happened in Israel. The government gave in to public pressure and reopened things too quickly and they are now experiencing a huge resurgence. Opening schools before a vaccine is pure folly. I don’t care what the CDC says. They are bowing to the mob if they think schools can open in person.

+1. And CDC doesn't have enough science knowledge to enable a return to indoor anything (restaurants, work, schools, etc.) In order to return to communal life indoors we need to know -- how does the virus spread through the air (aerosol? fully airborne? at what size particles and how often infective) and how much transmission is airborne v fomite. We also need to have a massive testing apparatus in place.

Harvard just announced they will welcome about 40% of students back to campus and test them every 3 days and highly restricted interaction (no parties, no guests, no big classes, etc.)

If you want kids in the classroom for any amount of time, we have to commit to a nation-wide massive school-based testing regime AND to reconfiguring how kids are taught. (For example, in ES, groups of 10 in a classroom at a time max with one teacher, no switching, focus on core (math and reading only) provide DL for history, science, art, gym and music none of which should be graded.

In MS and HS, kids will have to focus on core classes in school under same parameters -- stable groups less than 10. kids go to school for a week per month. no switching classrooms.

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+1. And CDC doesn't have enough science knowledge to enable a return to indoor anything (restaurants, work, schools, etc.) In order to return to communal life indoors we need to know -- how does the virus spread through the air (aerosol? fully airborne? at what size particles and how often infective) and how much transmission is airborne v fomite. We also need to have a massive testing apparatus in place.

Harvard just announced they will welcome about 40% of students back to campus and test them every 3 days and highly restricted interaction (no parties, no guests, no big classes, etc.)

If you want kids in the classroom for any amount of time, we have to commit to a nation-wide massive school-based testing regime AND to reconfiguring how kids are taught. (For example, in ES, groups of 10 in a classroom at a time max with one teacher, no switching, focus on core (math and reading only) provide DL for history, science, art, gym and music none of which should be graded.

In MS and HS, kids will have to focus on core classes in school under same parameters -- stable groups less than 10. kids go to school for a week per month. no switching classrooms.

Not really. All that's necessary, is for the decision-makers to make the decision.

All that other stuff is what you, personally, consider appropriate (and other people, for example me, consider inappropriate).