Girls 03-2021 HS Grads and 04-2022 HS grads what does D1 recruiting look like now?

Anonymous
My DD is an 04-2022 grad ECNL/GA player that got some positive interest from some good D1 programs in the fall season, but due to NCAA rules it was all second or third hand. With the college coach communication channel opening up in a month for 2022 girls I’m wondering what the conversations with colleges might look like this summer and whether any of the 03-2021 girls’ parents in the area have any advice or communication tips they can share with us 04 parents. What are things looking like in these strange times? Are college coaches still talking to players? What are they asking about or advice are they giving?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My DD is an 04-2022 grad ECNL/GA player that got some positive interest from some good D1 programs in the fall season, but due to NCAA rules it was all second or third hand. With the college coach communication channel opening up in a month for 2022 girls I’m wondering what the conversations with colleges might look like this summer and whether any of the 03-2021 girls’ parents in the area have any advice or communication tips they can share with us 04 parents. What are things looking like in these strange times? Are college coaches still talking to players? What are they asking about or advice are they giving?


Finally, something worth following. For the people the reply, please your graduation year vs birth year
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My DD is an 04-2022 grad ECNL/GA player that got some positive interest from some good D1 programs in the fall season, but due to NCAA rules it was all second or third hand. With the college coach communication channel opening up in a month for 2022 girls I’m wondering what the conversations with colleges might look like this summer and whether any of the 03-2021 girls’ parents in the area have any advice or communication tips they can share with us 04 parents. What are things looking like in these strange times? Are college coaches still talking to players? What are they asking about or advice are they giving?


I have an 04 who has some strong interest from a D1 program. The coach has been communicating with her coach and has recently requested full game film.

It appears that some programs do intend on beginning conversations with 04s as soon as possible.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My DD is an 04-2022 grad ECNL/GA player that got some positive interest from some good D1 programs in the fall season, but due to NCAA rules it was all second or third hand. With the college coach communication channel opening up in a month for 2022 girls I’m wondering what the conversations with colleges might look like this summer and whether any of the 03-2021 girls’ parents in the area have any advice or communication tips they can share with us 04 parents. What are things looking like in these strange times? Are college coaches still talking to players? What are they asking about or advice are they giving?


I have an 04 who has some strong interest from a D1 program. The coach has been communicating with her coach and has recently requested full game film.

It appears that some programs do intend on beginning conversations with 04s as soon as possible.


*adding grad year 2022

Also highly recommend that your 03s and 04s keep communicating with the colleges they are most interested in. Send emails stating they are still very interested in their program, send links to their highlight films.
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Anonymous wrote:My DD is an 04-2022 grad ECNL/GA player that got some positive interest from some good D1 programs in the fall season, but due to NCAA rules it was all second or third hand. With the college coach communication channel opening up in a month for 2022 girls I’m wondering what the conversations with colleges might look like this summer and whether any of the 03-2021 girls’ parents in the area have any advice or communication tips they can share with us 04 parents. What are things looking like in these strange times? Are college coaches still talking to players? What are they asking about or advice are they giving?


I'm not sure you can reliably draw too many parallels from 2021 experiences since COVID has really changed the landscape. All schools and players have lost alot of scouting opportunities, and as a result there is a backlog of 21's who are not yet committed. My understanding is there is alot of ongoing communication there. If you believe the recruiting experts, college coaches will be eager to start communicating to their 2022 prospects fairly promptly after June 15th and into the summer and fall in an attempt to narrow their lists and get back on schedule forming their incoming classes.
Anonymous
So, not much from current 03s about their conversations, if anyone’s having them. That’s too bad, i was hoping this thread would be useful.
Anonymous
I think 2022 03s are at a comparative scouting advantage right now compared to 2022 04s. When play resumes, hopefully shortly, I think 03 games will be heavily attended because 2021 classes need to be finished and 2022s will be taken quickly. I'm also partial to ECNL right now because I know scouting budgets will be spread thin and coaches will have to maximize the impact of showcase attendance.

From what I hear, things will be fast and furious come June 15, and probably more so for 03s since they've been seen more at this point than 2022 04s. Uncommitted 2021s will go quickly after 1-2 showcases, where coaches will have to get their final, confirmatory evaluations done and the class filled. A mid-July Jeff Cup and the first ECNL showcase - ECNL Nationals in Greensboro repackaged as a showcase(?) - will be really important for 2021 girls.

I understand FCV and VDA 04s are strong, but I don't think 2023s on those teams will be getting serious looks until spring 2021 or later. Only time will tell how many scouts will show for GA showcases.

The question is how colleges will get kids on campus for official visits this fall if campuses are closed. Let's hope not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think 2022 03s are at a comparative scouting advantage right now compared to 2022 04s. When play resumes, hopefully shortly, I think 03 games will be heavily attended because 2021 classes need to be finished and 2022s will be taken quickly. I'm also partial to ECNL right now because I know scouting budgets will be spread thin and coaches will have to maximize the impact of showcase attendance.

From what I hear, things will be fast and furious come June 15, and probably more so for 03s since they've been seen more at this point than 2022 04s. Uncommitted 2021s will go quickly after 1-2 showcases, where coaches will have to get their final, confirmatory evaluations done and the class filled. A mid-July Jeff Cup and the first ECNL showcase - ECNL Nationals in Greensboro repackaged as a showcase(?) - will be really important for 2021 girls.

I understand FCV and VDA 04s are strong, but I don't think 2023s on those teams will be getting serious looks until spring 2021 or later. Only time will tell how many scouts will show for GA showcases.

The question is how colleges will get kids on campus for official visits this fall if campuses are closed. Let's hope not.


Jeff-cup is not going to happen in July. I wouldn’t bet on any fall showcases. The most likely outcome is that 2022s who were on the radar before COVID will be in discussions over the summer and fall. Those who were not previously looked at will be scouted next spring - when the showcase will restart. While official visits may still take place this fall, ID camps will likely start up in the winter. While it’s clear you want to pump up FCV and VDA, coaches care about players not teams. Coaches have been scouting top players in the region since their freshmen and sophomore years. Players have been shifting teams a lot over the past couple of years, coaches know this and don’t care too much about the team - only that it competes at a high level. Unfortunately, 2021 girls who are not actively engaging with coaches now will likely be out of luck at the prestigious D1 academic schools and strong D1 soccer schools. They’re best bet right now is to look a regional D1 options or D3 schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think 2022 03s are at a comparative scouting advantage right now compared to 2022 04s. When play resumes, hopefully shortly, I think 03 games will be heavily attended because 2021 classes need to be finished and 2022s will be taken quickly. I'm also partial to ECNL right now because I know scouting budgets will be spread thin and coaches will have to maximize the impact of showcase attendance.

From what I hear, things will be fast and furious come June 15, and probably more so for 03s since they've been seen more at this point than 2022 04s. Uncommitted 2021s will go quickly after 1-2 showcases, where coaches will have to get their final, confirmatory evaluations done and the class filled. A mid-July Jeff Cup and the first ECNL showcase - ECNL Nationals in Greensboro repackaged as a showcase(?) - will be really important for 2021 girls.

I understand FCV and VDA 04s are strong, but I don't think 2023s on those teams will be getting serious looks until spring 2021 or later. Only time will tell how many scouts will show for GA showcases.

The question is how colleges will get kids on campus for official visits this fall if campuses are closed. Let's hope not.


In all seriousness, if colleges are closed in the fall, there are bigger issues than recruiting. If schools don't get revenue from football and basketball revenues are delayed, athletic budgets at the most profitable Power 5 schools will need cutting.
Anonymous
You can only imagine what closed school in the fall will do to programs that don't have a major sport providing funding for non-revenue sports.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You can only imagine what closed school in the fall will do to programs that don't have a major sport providing funding for non-revenue sports.


1. Top recruits from 03/22 will get picked up early in fall.
2. Teams will make offers as its 2 years out and 1 year from signing.
3. If you did not go in to the new quiet period with momentum then we’ll.....
4. 04 / 22 players are at a disadvantage on the whole (not playing vs. 21’s)
5. Top conferences will be fine - so top recruits fine
6. Lower D1 / D2 in trouble if things persist
7. D3 fine - no scholarships for sports (quasi club)
8. This makes being in right league to be seen key in future
9. Coaches will have less funds so will travel to best concentration
10. You are thinking of your response now....but you know above is correct
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can only imagine what closed school in the fall will do to programs that don't have a major sport providing funding for non-revenue sports.


1. Top recruits from 03/22 will get picked up early in fall.
2. Teams will make offers as its 2 years out and 1 year from signing.
3. If you did not go in to the new quiet period with momentum then we’ll.....
4. 04 / 22 players are at a disadvantage on the whole (not playing vs. 21’s)
5. Top conferences will be fine - so top recruits fine
6. Lower D1 / D2 in trouble if things persist
7. D3 fine - no scholarships for sports (quasi club)
8. This makes being in right league to be seen key in future
9. Coaches will have less funds so will travel to best concentration
10. You are thinking of your response now....but you know above is correct


This looks accurate to me. If your 04/22 hadn’t already done ID camps and-or gotten interest at showcases, it’s going to be a really tough haul. If your 04/22 HAS already done camps and gotten interest, might be easier but only at D1 schools whose women’s soccer programs are secure. Do you think those are Ivys and top 25s and schools who’ve already cut men’s soccer and need women’s soccer to balance football for Title IX?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can only imagine what closed school in the fall will do to programs that don't have a major sport providing funding for non-revenue sports.


1. Top recruits from 03/22 will get picked up early in fall.
2. Teams will make offers as its 2 years out and 1 year from signing.
3. If you did not go in to the new quiet period with momentum then we’ll.....
4. 04 / 22 players are at a disadvantage on the whole (not playing vs. 21’s)
5. Top conferences will be fine - so top recruits fine
6. Lower D1 / D2 in trouble if things persist
7. D3 fine - no scholarships for sports (quasi club)
8. This makes being in right league to be seen key in future
9. Coaches will have less funds so will travel to best concentration
10. You are thinking of your response now....but you know above is correct


What does quasi club mean? In your point #7.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can only imagine what closed school in the fall will do to programs that don't have a major sport providing funding for non-revenue sports.


1. Top recruits from 03/22 will get picked up early in fall.
2. Teams will make offers as its 2 years out and 1 year from signing.
3. If you did not go in to the new quiet period with momentum then we’ll.....
4. 04 / 22 players are at a disadvantage on the whole (not playing vs. 21’s)
5. Top conferences will be fine - so top recruits fine
6. Lower D1 / D2 in trouble if things persist
7. D3 fine - no scholarships for sports (quasi club)
8. This makes being in right league to be seen key in future
9. Coaches will have less funds so will travel to best concentration
10. You are thinking of your response now....but you know above is correct


What does quasi club mean? In your point #7.


Sorry. Good question. On “club” comment it’s not about quality of play. Lots of talented players go D3. It’s that they don’t offer scholarships so often players choosing the school on academics first (most D3 are liberal arts academic powerhouses like Washington Lee in VA) - and the programs don’t rely as much on funding from football revenues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can only imagine what closed school in the fall will do to programs that don't have a major sport providing funding for non-revenue sports.


1. Top recruits from 03/22 will get picked up early in fall.
2. Teams will make offers as its 2 years out and 1 year from signing.
3. If you did not go in to the new quiet period with momentum then we’ll.....
4. 04 / 22 players are at a disadvantage on the whole (not playing vs. 21’s)
5. Top conferences will be fine - so top recruits fine
6. Lower D1 / D2 in trouble if things persist
7. D3 fine - no scholarships for sports (quasi club)
8. This makes being in right league to be seen key in future
9. Coaches will have less funds so will travel to best concentration
10. You are thinking of your response now....but you know above is correct


This looks accurate to me. If your 04/22 hadn’t already done ID camps and-or gotten interest at showcases, it’s going to be a really tough haul. If your 04/22 HAS already done camps and gotten interest, might be easier but only at D1 schools whose women’s soccer programs are secure. Do you think those are Ivys and top 25s and schools who’ve already cut men’s soccer and need women’s soccer to balance football for Title IX?


Yes. And read this so you know the latest on rules. The vote allows D1 schools to spend less than required previously on scholarships to be D1. This means smaller sports (diving, track) may offer less scholarships or money. Women’s soccer and basketball would be last hit here most likely as they are top girls D1 sports. Also, the request from non power 5 schools to remove requirement on number of sports required was denied. The best way to read this is power 5 schools are best bet for an offer with money.

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