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Anonymous wrote:What was racist about Luann' s costume?

Seriously? She was in blackface. And she was wearing a 2.5 ft tall afro wig to signify that she was a black woman -- who never wore her hair like that. She just put on an afro and a pound and a half of bronzer and called herself Diana Ross.

I didn't think she altered her skin. She is darker naturally due to native American heritage. If she didn't wear a wig, no one would recognize her as Diana Ross. The wig was required.

Hey second PP, I'm just curious... If a black person goes to an 80s party and decides to dress up as Barbie, and wears a blonde wig (even if Barbie never wore her hair in that particular style) and puts some lighter foundation on her face, is that "racist" too? Because it's not her natural hair color and she's obviously trying to pretend to be another race?

Different. This is because wearing "black face" makeup was a thing in theatre, largely done by whites and then those actors stereotyped black people negatively. It perpetuated racial biases. Luann did seem a little darker than usual but not massively so. I figure those who were there would know if she darkened her face or not. Since she denies it though I'm not positive. IF she did, it is racially insensitive. If she didn't, I don't have a problem with the costume. The wig was a representation of a look of someone famous, just as Britney's, Lucille's and barbie's were.

I can't stand Luann, but I really don't think anyone could call her racist for dressing up as a black person. It was done to honor a person, wasn't it? It's different if she dresses up as a black person and then says "well since I'm black for tonight, I guess I should go and rob a liquor store" or something like that. But if she dresses up as someone she admires, and that person happens to be black, I really don't see what the problem is. Was she not acting like typical Luann?

I don't have a theatre background and it would never occur to me that "black face" is offensive. I had no idea about this historical use being associated with stereotyping black people negatively. Maybe she didn't either.

I can tell you though that I know a racist person and that person would never in a million years dress up as a black person. They'd consider that to be pretty much the worst thing that a white person could ever do and they'd never understand it.

Really, people need to understand that this "OMG that's racist!" stuff is promoting a greater divide between white people and black people. I can tell you that as a result of this thread, I'll never let my kids spotlight a black person in terms of dressing up like them to honor them, or writing about them and their contributions to the world, or anything like that. It's just a political minefield and I'd rather not go near it. I don't know all the history and political crap and don't want to get myself or one of my kids in trouble. Better to just stick to our own race and not offend anyone. I don't think that's the best thing to move forward for society, but it seems like it's the best thing for individual people. I'd hate for someone from my family to get accused of being racist just because we happened to choose a black person to honor and we didn't know about some obscure thing that can offend someone!

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Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Dorinda? She gets so angry and mean. The first time she ever got in my face screaming and pointing her finger would the absolute last. Sonja is a moron, but no one deserves to be talked to the way Dorinda talks to people. It is astoundingly disgusting and it's not even good TV.

Dorinda is a depressed person who self-medicates with alcohol. She's never gotten over her grief.

She needs to stop drinking and deal with her depression.

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I actually like Dorinda when she's not drunk and psychotic, but she has a serious problem.

Anonymous wrote:Tinsley is like a 14-year-old girl trapped in a woman's body.

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Anonymous wrote:Luann in that racist costume totally stole the show from Carole and Sonja both arriving dressed as dead women to a party whose theme was "Famous Person Who is Still Alive."

Bethenny seems very ... intense. I admire the Puerto Rico stuff, but it's like she gave herself a "don't take any shit from anybody" pep talk before the party. And I don't think she needed that pep talk to begin with.

I'm really surprised they brought Tinsley back, she's so boring.

I love Bethenny. I feel like I should say that up front. She is the type of person who, if I were talking with her in real life, would change my breathing because she's so intense. She takes on a lot - co-parenting with someone she's still having problems with, her alcohol business, managing her brand (which is apparently a thing now), the Puerto Rico planes full of supplies, filming RH, creating a show with Frederick. It's a lot. Nobody else on the show has young kids. Sonja's kid is a senior in high school and away at boarding school. LuAnn's son is a freshman in college. So nobody ohow is actively parenting a child besides Bethenny.

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Anonymous wrote:Luann in that racist costume totally stole the show from Carole and Sonja both arriving dressed as dead women to a party whose theme was "Famous Person Who is Still Alive."

Bethenny seems very ... intense. I admire the Puerto Rico stuff, but it's like she gave herself a "don't take any shit from anybody" pep talk before the party. And I don't think she needed that pep talk to begin with.

I'm really surprised they brought Tinsley back, she's so boring.

I love Bethenny. I feel like I should say that up front. She is the type of person who, if I were talking with her in real life, would change my breathing because she's so intense. She takes on a lot - co-parenting with someone she's still having problems with, her alcohol business, managing her brand (which is apparently a thing now), the Puerto Rico planes full of supplies, filming RH, creating a show with Frederick. It's a lot. Nobody else on the show has young kids. Sonja's kid is a senior in high school and away at boarding school. LuAnn's son is a freshman in college. So nobody ohow is actively parenting a child besides Bethenny.

+1 Bethenny is very "no bullshit" and is overall somebody I feel like you can depend on if you're close with her.

Anonymous wrote:I love Carole's tattoo bodysuit tonight.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Carole's tattoo bodysuit tonight.

I wasn't feeling that, but I liked both of Lu's tops (i.e., the pink one she was wearing and the green one Sonja "borrowed" from her). I also wasn't a fan of the Gucci sweater Dennis was wearing. I'm with Bethenny on that one. My favorite line of the night might be his "I was told to stand by this chair."

Anonymous wrote:Anyone watch last night?

The scene with Tinsley and Scott, I was mortified for her. She behaves like a 12 year old girl. I almost couldn't even watch it. Cringe. Worthy.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone watch last night?

The scene with Tinsley and Scott, I was mortified for her. She behaves like a 12 year old girl. I almost couldn't even watch it. Cringe. Worthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watch last night?

The scene with Tinsley and Scott, I was mortified for her. She behaves like a 12 year old girl. I almost couldn't even watch it. Cringe. Worthy.

When she dropped to the floor and curled into a ball when he came to the door?? OMG so hard to watch. And the whole flower thing. Ugh so bad. She is literally in her 40s!!!