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04/16/2018 20:54

Subject: RHONY Season 10

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Anonymous wrote:What was racist about Luann' s costume?

Seriously? She was in blackface. And she was wearing a 2.5 ft tall afro wig to signify that she was a black woman -- who never wore her hair like that. She just put on an afro and a pound and a half of bronzer and called herself Diana Ross.

I didn't think she altered her skin. She is darker naturally due to native American heritage. If she didn't wear a wig, no one would recognize her as Diana Ross. The wig was required.

Hey second PP, I'm just curious... If a black person goes to an 80s party and decides to dress up as Barbie, and wears a blonde wig (even if Barbie never wore her hair in that particular style) and puts some lighter foundation on her face, is that "racist" too? Because it's not her natural hair color and she's obviously trying to pretend to be another race?

Different. This is because wearing "black face" makeup was a thing in theatre, largely done by whites and then those actors stereotyped black people negatively. It perpetuated racial biases. Luann did seem a little darker than usual but not massively so. I figure those who were there would know if she darkened her face or not. Since she denies it though I'm not positive. IF she did, it is racially insensitive. If she didn't, I don't have a problem with the costume. The wig was a representation of a look of someone famous, just as Britney's, Lucille's and barbie's were.

I can't stand Luann, but I really don't think anyone could call her racist for dressing up as a black person. It was done to honor a person, wasn't it? It's different if she dresses up as a black person and then says "well since I'm black for tonight, I guess I should go and rob a liquor store" or something like that. But if she dresses up as someone she admires, and that person happens to be black, I really don't see what the problem is. Was she not acting like typical Luann?

I don't have a theatre background and it would never occur to me that "black face" is offensive. I had no idea about this historical use being associated with stereotyping black people negatively. Maybe she didn't either.

I can tell you though that I know a racist person and that person would never in a million years dress up as a black person. They'd consider that to be pretty much the worst thing that a white person could ever do and they'd never understand it.

Really, people need to understand that this "OMG that's racist!" stuff is promoting a greater divide between white people and black people. I can tell you that as a result of this thread, I'll never let my kids spotlight a black person in terms of dressing up like them to honor them, or writing about them and their contributions to the world, or anything like that. It's just a political minefield and I'd rather not go near it. I don't know all the history and political crap and don't want to get myself or one of my kids in trouble. Better to just stick to our own race and not offend anyone. I don't think that's the best thing to move forward for society, but it seems like it's the best thing for individual people. I'd hate for someone from my family to get accused of being racist just because we happened to choose a black person to honor and we didn't know about some obscure thing that can offend someone!

NP. In the time that it took you to write this wall of text, you could've googled blackface. Unless you immigrated to the US as an adult, the history of blackface is common knowledge. It doesn't require any special background in theater to know about blackface.

If Luann wanted to dress up as Diana Ross, there were plenty of other ways that she could've done it. To begin with, she could've been more accurate. Luann put on a 2 ft tall Marge Simpson Afro to signify that she was Diana Ross. Diana Ross never wore her hair that way.

I did immigrate to the US as an adult, along with quite a few million other people. I don't think Luann did though. And she doesn't strike me as the type to want to deliberately be offensive to anyone, least of all the person she was trying to honor.

Anyway, I guess she (and I, and probably some more people reading) learned a lesson. It's just unfortunately not a lesson that I think leads towards "skin color is just another physical property like hair color" that's really needed to have everyone truly get along.