Always-stay-apart. And no, they don't get to "insist" otherwise. Pay yourself or don't go. |
And? What's your point? |
I think a lot of grandparents can't bring themselves to admit that looking after small children after 55, and in some cases, like my own parents, after 65. It's out of their league. Unless they are in terrific shape and young at heart, watching small children for more than a few days is too much for them. My parents like to do long visits and insist on watching our preschooler and toddler. By the 4th day, my father looks exhausted.
I think some grandparents want to prove they can keep up with little kids, but it's simply too much. Once you see your kids' grandparents moving into "child raising" territory, i.e. reprimanding your kids, trying to make them do things, threatening them with some sort of punishment, it's pretty much over. My grandparents hardly ever disciplined me-- they'd visit on Sunday and leave after dinner. There was no opportunity for me and my sibings to act up. Then again, we lived 20 minutes away from them so there was no reason have a visit that went more than an afternoon. |
I learned the hard way that I cannot share living quarters with my parents anymore. They have become so closed up, introverted and anxious that they just can't handle so much togetherness, and become hypercritical and grumpy. Say: "I'm taking a walk right now - look after the kids for me!". And go out. |
No. That is ridiculous. The grandparents do not "owe" anyone free babysitting. It's a FAVOR. You ask nicely for favors. |
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Take the kids out. Tell them that your kids are out of sorts and it seems the noise is overwhelming for your parents. They don't owe babysitting and are clearly not going to give it so just make the best of it. Do something with your kids like you would have at home - take a walk, find a park or somewhere to explore. |
I refuse to ever vacation with extended family again... |
I don't even really want to vacation with friends again. I like to relax and don't want to be beholden to anyone else's desires. Eat out/stay in/go to bed early whatever. And I especially do t like meshing parenting styles. It never works. |
They like the idea of being with the grandchildren, but not actually doing anything.
My parents are like that. They hear from their friends about going on vacation, living nearby, etc. and get jealous. And they do love my kid very much. But then when they visit, they have zero interest in actually doing anything with my kid and have unrealistic expectations regarding behavior. I have lowered my expectations accordingly and I don't engage whenever they bring up vacations, moving, etc. 1. No more vacations. 2. "Mom, Dad, we've discussed this before. We are not moving into town." Change subject. Next time "Mom, Dad, we've discussed this before, we are not moving." Leave room. |
+1 Have your vacation with your kids. Don't let your parents discipline them and don't expect any babysitting. |
This is what we do and it works. |
A vacation is really hard because it is just so much togetherness. My mom lives 10 minutes away from me and watches the kids for 2 hours after school 3 days a week. She has a great relationship with them in that context, but when we all went away together on a vacation, she got really annoyed with them after 3 days of nonstop togetherness and got cranky. |