Anonymous wrote:

I think the people in those towers died as representatives for the rest of us for our crimes against humanity. Not only do I think that 9/11 was deserved. I think it was one of the greatest events in human history."

I don't dispute his assertions that the actions of the West contributed to the rise of fundamentalism, but I really take issue with this part. Would he conversely now find drone strikes against random civilians in the middle east "great" or "deserved" in light of 9/11. If not, why aren't those people "representatives" for those who committed the terrorist actions of 9/11?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think the people in those towers died as representatives for the rest of us for our crimes against humanity. Not only do I think that 9/11 was deserved. I think it was one of the greatest events in human history."

I don't dispute his assertions that the actions of the West contributed to the rise of fundamentalism, but I really take issue with this part. Would he conversely now find drone strikes against random civilians in the middle east "great" or "deserved" in light of 9/11. If not, why aren't those people "representatives" for those who committed the terrorist actions of 9/11?

Correct. If we / the U.S. / the west / whoever you blame is the perpetrator of the mess, who could possibly justify revenge on ... The descendants of, or the innocent distant distant relations of the perpetrators. Or at best unknowing citizens of the same country who were born into the results of the historical past. But who had no hand in it. The people killed that day were not responsible.

Just gross.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think the people in those towers died as representatives for the rest of us for our crimes against humanity. Not only do I think that 9/11 was deserved. I think it was one of the greatest events in human history."

I don't dispute his assertions that the actions of the West contributed to the rise of fundamentalism, but I really take issue with this part. Would he conversely now find drone strikes against random civilians in the middle east "great" or "deserved" in light of 9/11. If not, why aren't those people "representatives" for those who committed the terrorist actions of 9/11?

Correct. If we / the U.S. / the west / whoever you blame is the perpetrator of the mess, who could possibly justify revenge on ... The descendants of, or the innocent distant distant relations of the perpetrators. Or at best unknowing citizens of the same country who were born into the results of the historical past. But who had no hand in it. The people killed that day were not responsible.

Just gross.

When are the people killed every the actual people responsible? I don't think that is the point he is making.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ooooof, this may go down as one of the most commented HoNY posts ever.

https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/posts/1305431209530976:0

"We’re the worst terrorists in the world and it was a long time coming. This entire country was built on the slaughter of innocents. And we got what we deserved. Just look at the history of US involvement in the Middle East. All those countries are artificial. We created those countries like plastic after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. And the only way to rule a plastic country is with a dictator. Assad, Hussein, the Shah—we propped them all up. Decades of torture, murder, and oppression. We sponsored it. So I say it whenever I can. I’ve had people threaten to kill me. I’ve had people threaten to rape my children. But I’ll keep saying it. You can call me a monster. I think the people in those towers died as representatives for the rest of us for our crimes against humanity. Not only do I think that 9/11 was deserved. I think it was one of the greatest events in human history."

I agree this mess in the arab nations started as a result of WWI, however is that really just the US's fault? I didn't realize we had such a large role in creating these countries.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ooooof, this may go down as one of the most commented HoNY posts ever.

https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/posts/1305431209530976:0

"We’re the worst terrorists in the world and it was a long time coming. This entire country was built on the slaughter of innocents. And we got what we deserved. Just look at the history of US involvement in the Middle East. All those countries are artificial. We created those countries like plastic after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. And the only way to rule a plastic country is with a dictator. Assad, Hussein, the Shah—we propped them all up. Decades of torture, murder, and oppression. We sponsored it. So I say it whenever I can. I’ve had people threaten to kill me. I’ve had people threaten to rape my children. But I’ll keep saying it. You can call me a monster. I think the people in those towers died as representatives for the rest of us for our crimes against humanity. Not only do I think that 9/11 was deserved. I think it was one of the greatest events in human history."

I agree this mess in the arab nations started as a result of WWI, however is that really just the US's fault? I didn't realize we had such a large role in creating these countries.

Yet, the region was pretty stable until recently

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ooooof, this may go down as one of the most commented HoNY posts ever.

https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/posts/1305431209530976:0

"We’re the worst terrorists in the world and it was a long time coming. This entire country was built on the slaughter of innocents. And we got what we deserved. Just look at the history of US involvement in the Middle East. All those countries are artificial. We created those countries like plastic after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. And the only way to rule a plastic country is with a dictator. Assad, Hussein, the Shah—we propped them all up. Decades of torture, murder, and oppression. We sponsored it. So I say it whenever I can. I’ve had people threaten to kill me. I’ve had people threaten to rape my children. But I’ll keep saying it. You can call me a monster. I think the people in those towers died as representatives for the rest of us for our crimes against humanity. Not only do I think that 9/11 was deserved. I think it was one of the greatest events in human history."

I agree this mess in the arab nations started as a result of WWI, however is that really just the US's fault? I didn't realize we had such a large role in creating these countries.

Yet, the region was pretty stable until recently

Anonymous wrote:No. There has been terrorism in the 'name of Islam' for centuries prior, just under different names. And yes, some people like to label that now as simply 'political expansion' of the past, well that could be said of today then too. The massacres, the torture, the genocide, the barbaric tactics are IDENTICAL to history long before the Ottoman Empire was reshuffled.

But it's a nice excuse and way to belittle the lives of 3000 innocent lives lost. Be the aggressor then play the victim and point the blame. How people buy into this crap is mind boggling.