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Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.

Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?

Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.

My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.

Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?

Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.

My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.

NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?

Anonymous wrote:^^ 15:51 said this "Actually the "worldwide" community of Anglicans who opposed gay marriage was mostly the churches in developing countries, especially Africa. Much as I respect 3rd world perspectives on many issues, gay rights isn't one of them."

and she's wrong because the vote disciplining the U.S. Epis. church was done by Primates from around the world under the direction of the Archbishop of Canterbury (also white).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.

Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?

Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.

My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.

NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?

Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.

Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?

Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.

My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.

NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?

Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?

Are you Episcopalian?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.

Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?

Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.

My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.

NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?

Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?

Are you Episcopalian?

Having attended Episcopalian churches for many years, I know that they are not stuck in the 1st century the way many Catholics and fundamentalists are.

Anonymous wrote:Episcopalians have a catechism? I thought that was only for Catholics.

PaleoConPrep wrote:I am a conservative Episcopalian.( I attend an Anglican Church, but I could be called Episcopalian) The Episcopal Church is in very bad shape. It is infected with radical Liberalism, congregations are aging, birth rates are very low, and membership is declining. However, this isn't the case with the conservative Episcopal congregations. I have many friends around the country who attend conservative Episcopal/Anglican churches, and their congregations are growing. They also have a good number of young people/families. There is only one good path the EC can take. They need to totally clean house, and go back to the old ways. ALL Liberal clergy need to be rebuked as heretics and defrocked. The seminaries need to be closed cleansed of Liberalism as well. Let the Liberals create their own denomination.
Listen to this
http://issuesetc.org/2016/01/15/3-the-anglican-communion-sanctions-the-us-episcopal-church-george-conger-11516/
It will give you a good idea of the state of the Anglican communion and the Episcopal Church.

PaleoConPrep wrote:I am a conservative Episcopalian.( I attend an Anglican Church, but I could be called Episcopalian) The Episcopal Church is in very bad shape. It is infected with radical Liberalism, congregations are aging, birth rates are very low, and membership is declining. However, this isn't the case with the conservative Episcopal congregations. I have many friends around the country who attend conservative Episcopal/Anglican churches, and their congregations are growing. They also have a good number of young people/families. There is only one good path the EC can take. They need to totally clean house, and go back to the old ways. ALL Liberal clergy need to be rebuked as heretics and defrocked. The seminaries need to be closed cleansed of Liberalism as well. Let the Liberals create their own denomination.
Listen to this
http://issuesetc.org/2016/01/15/3-the-anglican-communion-sanctions-the-us-episcopal-church-george-conger-11516/
It will give you a good idea of the state of the Anglican communion and the Episcopal Church.

Anonymous wrote:I would be careful aligning myself with the Anglicans churches in Africa. Does this sound like the teachings of Jesus? Do you think gay people should be put in jail for being gay?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/03/uganda-anglican-church_n_4890603.html