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" Friday, Mr Badawi's was flogged in public for the first time, before dozens of people in the Red Sea city of Jiddah. The father of three was taken to a public square, whipped on his back and legs, and taken back to prison."
What a nice place. They have given so much to the world. floggings, 9/11, kaa'ba trampling, offshore drinking parties, practicing religion behind closed doors (other than Islam) women as property... Their own citizens want change. I'd love to hear one of their change voices. Oh wait , theyre all being flogged. But lets focus on important human rights violations like niqab ban in France and cartooning. What a joke. |
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| Saudi Arabia is a mess. |
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The notion that any religion is independent of culture is patently absurd. |
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French culture has had a high tolerance of Islamic radicalism. It's the hip, pc thing to do. |
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Nah, what nonsense. It's a tradition of secularism and broad liberties going back to their revolution. Also guilt over colonialism and Algeria. Also a lot of self-doubt after the roles played by some French people after WWII. I think it was hip when immigrants were a small part of society just a few decades ago, but many fewer see a hipness factor these days, as the anti-immigrant demonstrations show. |
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agree My Jewish friends and acquaintances - from Conservative to Reform - will tell you that. |
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The way it is practiced absolutely is dependent on the culture, but the fact of the matter is that every religion has black-and-white scriptures, and it is the scripture and to the lesser degree, the religious laws, that define what the religion is, and what it isn't. |
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There are women with whom I work who do indeed wear some shirt skirts - oftentimes with tights and boots. younger crew, I'll admit - But there are some older women with great legs who manage to pull it off. not many, as I've said b/c it's not typical office attire but if you have the body for it . . . so yes, MY choice for not wearing it but others choosing TO wear them You're losing it, Muslim. You can't defend yourself w/o writing a few stupid quips (if you can even define them as such) or quoting from your texts. Most others have provided some evidence to support their sides - including me. But you can't compete. Furthermore, you're not changing anyone's mind here. Good arguments include finding weak spots in the opposing side. You haven't done that. You simply post an angry message or add some silly comment followed by this - 
I hardly think you're gifted in rhetoric. |
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| I would.like to.protest at the Saudi embassy tomorrow for my day on of service. Saudi Arabia seems to.me antithetical to everything king/civil rights stands for. Anyone in? |
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You really are taking this seriously, aren't you? The only time you feel important is when you argue on an anonymous forum? What you don't understand is I stopped wasting my time answering to you when I realized you miss a few screws , hence the smileys You will see those whenever I have nothing else to add to idiotic arguments. Now, don't you have anything else to do, like raise those perfect daughters of yours? I have important things to take care of in real life, so I will return to those and have Real conversations with people who are actually important and are making a change in the world. Happy Sunday!
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I have a daughter and a son. In my eyes they are at times perfect and at other times perfectly flawed. Here's to hoping you can refine your skills in rhetoric. |
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| Like Fonzi, this thread has jumped the shark. |
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You aren't changing anyone's mind either. What exactly is your argument here? Your perfect life and your perfect children? In fact, it's you (if that was you) who tried to reroute this argument. It has always been about women who chose to cover their faces in countries with no dress code, and the belief that if they do it in a place where it's not required, they must be either brainwashed or pushed by invisible forces. When told that women who wear in the West choose to wear it, you tried to change it to niqabs anywhere else in the world (never was a part of the argument), including places where they are mandated. While you were at it, you made up a ridiculous claim that women in these places are grateful to you for your good efforts. Then you tried to sell them as endemic to Islam (they aren't). Then you tried to claim enlightened Muslim countries gave women the freedom from them (they didn't, they simply banned them, taking the freedom to cover away). Then you moved to how Saudi Arabia is a terrible place. I'd say your rhetoric is pretty damn weak. |
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Somehow, I'm not convinced that wearing a burka or Niqab is a good idea. But carry on . . .
It's statement like this one that get to me and make your arguments seem absurd. "The Taliban have nothing to do with Islam." Really?? They're all about Islam--maybe a different version than you believe in, but it has SOMETHING to do with Islam. What about El Shabab? Paris? Boston? Wahhabism? ISIS? Al queda? If you want some credibility, you can't explain away movements you don't support by saying they have nothing to do with Islam. |
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You don't need to be convinced it's a good idea. You just have to believe it's not a good idea to forcibly tear it off the faces of women who wear it voluntarily. |