Rude Asians in FC Rec Centers

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When I was pregnant with my half Asian child, a White Supremacist told me that there was still time to save myself, and my race. I could abort my baby, despite being 7 months pregnant, because she really wasn't a person anyway.


Where did this happen and what were the circumstances?


Does it matter? The point is that it did happen, less than five years ago, and there was a specific white supremacist group behind it.


suspicious


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I was targeted online, while part of the babycenter group Interracial Families. There were also many discussions about us, naming names and such, on Storm Front. Back in those days all the threads were not locked, and you were able to see what they were saying about everyone. It was after a twin singers, spreading their messages of hate, that the threads were locked, except for a select few.
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Anonymous wrote:I am asian and i am so hurt by this post. I had no idea that this kind of hatred existed. I have friends who are all colors of the rainbow. My husband is white. I contribute to the American society I live in... I am really saddened.


Really?


I second this. How can you not know that their is racism, and that Asians are subjected to it? You must be in denial, or have blinders on.


Honestly, I give people the benefit of doubt. My parents raised me that way... I guess I knew racism existed but I"m not racist to any group. I guess I just don't want to see the "bad" in people. If I thought people were racist for every weird look, I'd be pretty unhappy... By the way, why am I defending myself here?


I am not suggesting that you look at everyone as a racist. However, you are being too naive if you think that you wouldn't be the target of any type of racist stereotyping, profiling, or racism. People are good for the most part, but there are some who you will never see any good in.

When I was pregnant with my half Asian child, a White Supremacist told me that there was still time to save myself, and my race. I could abort my baby, despite being 7 months pregnant, because she really wasn't a person anyway.


White Supremacist??? Not too many of those around anymore.




Oh that's right, they are now called White Nationalists.


Not too many of those inside the Beltway either!


You just have no idea. Google Storm Front.


please. i've lived inside the beltway my entire life. Sure, I have met bigoted people of ALL RACES (whites don't have the market cornered on racism, go ask my Egyptian father in law about black people) but as far as cross burning and white supremacists coming up to you at Tysons Corner telling you to abort your baby when you are 7mos pregnant, very unlikely. I'm married to a very visibly Arab and no one has said anything to my face or burned a cross on my yard.
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Wow, I love how I am either "weird" or "fed up with white men" for falling in love with an incredibly amazing asian man.

What decade is this?


sounds like it's 1840.


think interracial marriage was illegal then. if not, society would have made your life hard.


I believe it was illegal until 1967 in the US. Such an enlightened country. Not.


was that between just whites and blacks or any interracial marriages?


Good question. I thought it was between any.


The 1967 Supreme Court decision Loving v. Virginia (yes, that was the name of the case) made it illegal for the STATES to have laws against interracial marriage. There was no federal law. It was mostly southern states that had such laws.
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Anonymous wrote: please. i've lived inside the beltway my entire life. Sure, I have met bigoted people of ALL RACES (whites don't have the market cornered on racism, go ask my Egyptian father in law about black people) but as far as cross burning and white supremacists coming up to you at Tysons Corner telling you to abort your baby when you are 7mos pregnant, very unlikely. I'm married to a very visibly Arab and no one has said anything to my face or burned a cross on my yard.


Maybe they haven't burned a cross on your lawn because they don't want to preserve YOUR genetic material? You seem to be at the shallow end of the gene pool already -- as evidenced by the ridiculous "I've lived here all my life and am married to an Arab and so I know what I'm talking about" post. Like your experiences somehow define away the existence, no, the possibility, of anything different. OK. Riiiiight.

Not saying that the PP isn't a hoax, but I've lived here long enough to know that strange things can and do happen. Both inside and outside the beltway.



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think interracial marriage was illegal then. if not, society would have made your life hard.

I believe it was illegal until 1967 in the US. Such an enlightened country. Not.

was that between just whites and blacks or any interracial marriages?

This was regulated by the states. 1967 was the year of the Supreme Court decision overthrowing the Virginia law which had made Mildred (black) and Richard (white) Loving's marriage illegal in Virginia. As I recall, they had gotten married in DC but lived in Caroline County and were thrown into jail. I don't know if the Virginia law was just aimed at blacks and whites.
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think interracial marriage was illegal then. if not, society would have made your life hard.

I believe it was illegal until 1967 in the US. Such an enlightened country. Not.

was that between just whites and blacks or any interracial marriages?

This was regulated by the states. 1967 was the year of the Supreme Court decision overthrowing the Virginia law which had made Mildred (black) and Richard (white) Loving's marriage illegal in Virginia. As I recall, they had gotten married in DC but lived in Caroline County and were thrown into jail. I don't know if the Virginia law was just aimed at blacks and whites.


I don't think it was just aimed at blacks and whites. I think that it is just perceived as being the least acceptable combination. I for one am glad these stupid laws no longer exist, and that society on a whole is more excepting.
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I don't think anyone will come up & say anything deragatory to your face. Anything's possible, but unlikely.
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Wow, I love how I am either "weird" or "fed up with white men" for falling in love with an incredibly amazing asian man.

What decade is this?


sounds like it's 1840.


think interracial marriage was illegal then. if not, society would have made your life hard.


I believe it was illegal until 1967 in the US. Such an enlightened country. Not.


was that between just whites and blacks or any interracial marriages?


Good question. I thought it was between any.


The 1967 Supreme Court decision Loving v. Virginia (yes, that was the name of the case) made it illegal for the STATES to have laws against interracial marriage. There was no federal law. It was mostly southern states that had such laws.


It was also 1967 for western states, i.e. Nevada.
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Although it is very common now to see Asian/American marriages, I have witnessed cultural tension between the white and Asian sides of my family when I was younger (from both sides). And even now, my sister was not readily welcomed into her white husband's family (because 1, she's part Asian and 2, she's Catholic). Although she is accepted more than her full-blooded Japanese Buddhist sister-in-law. It seems the parents' anti-Asian views backfired, as all their sons ended up marrying Asians!

I've always been interested cultural issues so I looked it up...most laws I found pertained to white/black marriages, but I found some that address white/Asian marriages:

1909 Montana statutes passed declaring marriages between whites and persons of whole or part Negro blood or Chinese or Japanese null and void.

1912 Nevada Revised Laws, sec. 6517: "If any white person with any person shall live and cohabit with any black person, mulatto, Indian, or any person of the Malay or brown race or of the Mongolian or yellow race, in a state of fornication, such person so offending shall, onc onviction thereof, be fined in any sum not exceeding five hundred dollars, and not less than one hundred dollars, or be imprisoned in the county jail not less than six months or more than one year, or both."

1913 Nebraska Laws, ch. 72, sec. 5302. Void marriages: "First -- when one party is a white person and the other is possessed of one-eighth or more negro, Japanese or Chinese blood."

1921 Georgia act makes felonious and void the intermarriage of whites and persons with an ascertainable trace of African, West Indian, Asiatic Indian, or Mongolian blood. Provisions for detecting such blood could not be enforced for lack of appropriations.

1950 Intermarriage prohibited in 30 of 48 U.S. states
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zumbamama wrote:

1909 Montana statutes passed declaring marriages between whites and persons of whole or part Negro blood or Chinese or Japanese null and void.

1912 Nevada Revised Laws, sec. 6517: "If any white person with any person shall live and cohabit with any black person, mulatto, Indian, or any person of the Malay or brown race or of the Mongolian or yellow race, in a state of fornication, such person so offending shall, onc onviction thereof, be fined in any sum not exceeding five hundred dollars, and not less than one hundred dollars, or be imprisoned in the county jail not less than six months or more than one year, or both."

1913 Nebraska Laws, ch. 72, sec. 5302. Void marriages: "First -- when one party is a white person and the other is possessed of one-eighth or more negro, Japanese or Chinese blood."

1921 Georgia act makes felonious and void the intermarriage of whites and persons with an ascertainable trace of African, West Indian, Asiatic Indian, or Mongolian blood. Provisions for detecting such blood could not be enforced for lack of appropriations.

1950 Intermarriage prohibited in 30 of 48 U.S. states


Those laws just seem so ridiculous don't they? It just shows exactly how narrow their world view was. As if all non white could be encompassed in Negro, Chinese and Japanese. Although it looks like Georgia must've have a really sharp legislature adding West Indian, Asiatic Indian, or Mongolian.
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zumbamama have you read "Kimchi and Sauerkraut" by Phillip Park? It's a really good read, and it really covers how different things were for Asians, or part Asians especially during the WWII and the civil rights eras.
http://www.amazon.com/Kimchi-Sauerkraut-Memoir-Philip-Park/dp/0978858026/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234452843&sr=8-1
zumbamama
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Yeah Maynie, but it's just society growing out of their narrow-mindedness...like growing out of slavery, women's oppression, etc...or like when everyone thought the world was flat, society eventually came to accept that it wasn't.

10:37 I will check out Kimchi and Sauerkraut. The title reminds me of a self portrait project I did college...I photographed a bottle of soysauce with Worcester sauce, with a mixing bowl in front of them (me) haha!

Have you ever seen "Come See the Paradise" with Dennis Quaid and Tamilyn Tomita? That is also about Japanese-American relations during WWII. I love that movie.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone will come up & say anything deragatory to your face. Anything's possible, but unlikely.


I find this as funny and naive as the lady who is so shocked by this thread.

Where do you live? Are you a person of color?

Maybe it's unlikely in your little bubble of a world.... but don't go assuming it's the same in every neighborhood in every part of this area.

People will say the darnedest things without even flinching. It surprises me more that people don't believe this, than that it actually happens.
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When I was growing up, I grew up in a WASP-y area, used to live in constant fear and anxiety about white supremacists, racists, etc. I feel like I frequently witnessed a lot of conflict between adult white folks (blue collar, welfare recipients) and my (Asian) parents who ran a convenience store. On average, most of the people were probably more cordial, but the taste from the negative events stay with me. There were these low class, uneducated (barely graduated high school) welfare recipients (all white in that neighborhood) and they looked down on us who had our own business, paid taxes that enabled them to get these welfare benefits.

The highest job most of the people from this 'hood attained was a construction job or drywalling. That's fine as an honest profession, but it's amazing how people no matter how poor they are, think they are "superior" because they were born white.
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