Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

You?? The Equality Poster again???? Muslim women and Men are Equal, let me repeat again, we are Equal. I've said it again more than twice, maybe we need 20 more pages to get you to understand what Equality means . While men and women have equal rights in Islam, the specific rights and responsibilities granted to them are not identical, nobody ever said they were. Men and women have complementary rights and responsibilities.And don't you dare telling me you have the monopoly on what equality is Western equality you say??? Do I need to remind you that it is the very lack of equality in the WEST, of women's Rights that birthed the feminist movement? Just a few years ago , yeh years, not centuries, Women did not have the right to vote in the US. They got that right in 1920 after fighting tooth and nails, a right that was granted to Muslim women like 1400 years ago. Women in the West did not have the right to own property, only their husbands could The women had to struggle, a lot in the West for acquiring these rights, which Islam had given to them centuries ago. Oh and women still struggle for equal pay So don't tell me about western equality as the de facto notion of women's equality. Puh-Leezzzz

Once more, with feeling. You certainly IMPLIED that rights and responsibilities were equal, when you used the word "equal" for a non-Muslim audience you KNEW VERY WELL would interpret the word differently from a Muslim audience. That's no different from a deliberate deception on your part.

You have only yourself to blame, if it took 20+ pages on women in Islam, across several threads, to get you to the point where you finally said, "what I actually mean by 'equal' is..."

You are dense, go get a drink. Get a cosmo, suits your personality and call Carrie Bradshaw while you're at it, you can have a nice relaxing discussion about women's rights while sipping on your cosmo....

Signed,
A Muslim Woman who is equaled to a Muslim Man

I love, love, love how you always repeat a poster's sane and rational arguments, and then you respond with some insulting gibberish of your own. Do you have any idea how immature and nasty you look?

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

You?? The Equality Poster again???? Muslim women and Men are Equal, let me repeat again, we are Equal. I've said it again more than twice, maybe we need 20 more pages to get you to understand what Equality means . While men and women have equal rights in Islam, the specific rights and responsibilities granted to them are not identical, nobody ever said they were. Men and women have complementary rights and responsibilities.And don't you dare telling me you have the monopoly on what equality is Western equality you say??? Do I need to remind you that it is the very lack of equality in the WEST, of women's Rights that birthed the feminist movement? Just a few years ago , yeh years, not centuries, Women did not have the right to vote in the US. They got that right in 1920 after fighting tooth and nails, a right that was granted to Muslim women like 1400 years ago. Women in the West did not have the right to own property, only their husbands could The women had to struggle, a lot in the West for acquiring these rights, which Islam had given to them centuries ago. Oh and women still struggle for equal pay So don't tell me about western equality as the de facto notion of women's equality. Puh-Leezzzz

Provide proof of Muslim women voting 1400 years ago. Actually, provide proof of anybody Muslim voting 1400 years ago. The majority of Muslim rulers throughout history have not been selected by voting, whether by males or females.

You need a dictionary to tell you what "equal" means. It doesn't mean what you think it does.

Google it, I don't have time to educate you. Or go to the library, turn left and look under "History of World Religions". If you can't go that far, ask the nice ladies at the front desk, they will be happy to show you what section you need to look under. Then, wear your glasses, sit down, take a long breath and start reading..... The so-called Muslim countries have had like what, over 8 Muslim women as Female head of states, and America is still waiting for Hillary so we can make history in 2014

As usual, I'm torn between letting the idiocy of your non-answers and crude insults speak for themselves, and the alternative of hitting "quote" to point out that you obviously have no answer to PP's request that you, you know, prove your assertion that Islam granted voting rights to women 1400 years ago.

I see you and your nasty little sidekick are now just posting insults. Yuck.

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Let's elevate this again from your childishness: what is the source for your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women? And what is the evidence that it actually happened?
Were the rashidun - any one of them - brought to office as a result of universal vote? Or a decision by a handful of men?
When was the first universal vote in a Muslim-majority country?

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Let's elevate this again from your childishness: what is the source for your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women? And what is the evidence that it actually happened?
Were the rashidun - any one of them - brought to office as a result of universal vote? Or a decision by a handful of men?
When was the first universal vote in a Muslim-majority country?

You obviously have an Internet connection. Use it. Self-imposed ignorance is markedly offensive to others.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

You?? The Equality Poster again???? Muslim women and Men are Equal, let me repeat again, we are Equal. I've said it again more than twice, maybe we need 20 more pages to get you to understand what Equality means . While men and women have equal rights in Islam, the specific rights and responsibilities granted to them are not identical, nobody ever said they were. Men and women have complementary rights and responsibilities.And don't you dare telling me you have the monopoly on what equality is Western equality you say??? Do I need to remind you that it is the very lack of equality in the WEST, of women's Rights that birthed the feminist movement? Just a few years ago , yeh years, not centuries, Women did not have the right to vote in the US. They got that right in 1920 after fighting tooth and nails, a right that was granted to Muslim women like 1400 years ago. Women in the West did not have the right to own property, only their husbands could The women had to struggle, a lot in the West for acquiring these rights, which Islam had given to them centuries ago. Oh and women still struggle for equal pay So don't tell me about western equality as the de facto notion of women's equality. Puh-Leezzzz

Provide proof of Muslim women voting 1400 years ago. Actually, provide proof of anybody Muslim voting 1400 years ago. The majority of Muslim rulers throughout history have not been selected by voting, whether by males or females.

You need a dictionary to tell you what "equal" means. It doesn't mean what you think it does.

Google it, I don't have time to educate you. Or go to the library, turn left and look under "History of World Religions". If you can't go that far, ask the nice ladies at the front desk, they will be happy to show you what section you need to look under. Then, wear your glasses, sit down, take a long breath and start reading..... The so-called Muslim countries have had like what, over 8 Muslim women as Female head of states, and America is still waiting for Hillary so we can make history in 2014

As usual, I'm torn between letting the idiocy of your non-answers and crude insults speak for themselves, and the alternative of hitting "quote" to point out that you obviously have no answer to PP's request that you, you know, prove your assertion that Islam granted voting rights to women 1400 years ago.

I see you and your nasty little sidekick are now just posting insults. Yuck.

Muslima, did a grown woman just say, "Yuck"? Oh my.

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Let's elevate this again from your childishness: what is the source for your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women? And what is the evidence that it actually happened?
Were the rashidun - any one of them - brought to office as a result of universal vote? Or a decision by a handful of men?
When was the first universal vote in a Muslim-majority country?

You obviously have an Internet connection. Use it. Self-imposed ignorance is markedly offensive to others.

That's not how it works. You made the claim, you bring the evidence.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Let's elevate this again from your childishness: what is the source for your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women? And what is the evidence that it actually happened?
Were the rashidun - any one of them - brought to office as a result of universal vote? Or a decision by a handful of men?
When was the first universal vote in a Muslim-majority country?

You obviously have an Internet connection. Use it. Self-imposed ignorance is markedly offensive to others.

That's not how it works. You made the claim, you bring the evidence.

This is not your Court of Law, Your not-Honor. Your rules don't fly. You want to know, go get educated. I will repeat it again loud and clear : 1400 years ago Islam Gave women the right to vote

Anonymous wrote:DCUM needs to upgrade its Muslims. I'd actually enjoy talking with Muslim posters who were capable of saying, "yes, Islam is different from the West, let me list the ABC ways, but I prefer the Islamic system for XYZ reasons."

Instead, we get these two reactionary fools. They make up total BS (aforesaid granting of voting rights to women 1400 years ago) and then they get all pissy and ugly when challenged to provide evidence.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Let's elevate this again from your childishness: what is the source for your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women? And what is the evidence that it actually happened?
Were the rashidun - any one of them - brought to office as a result of universal vote? Or a decision by a handful of men?
When was the first universal vote in a Muslim-majority country?

You obviously have an Internet connection. Use it. Self-imposed ignorance is markedly offensive to others.

That's not how it works. You made the claim, you bring the evidence.

This is not your Court of Law, Your not-Honor. Your rules don't fly. You want to know, go get educated. I will repeat it again loud and clear : 1400 years ago Islam Gave women the right to vote

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Signed,

No, but I knew you were reading, so I brought it down to your level

Let's elevate this again from your childishness: what is the source for your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women? And what is the evidence that it actually happened?
Were the rashidun - any one of them - brought to office as a result of universal vote? Or a decision by a handful of men?
When was the first universal vote in a Muslim-majority country?

You obviously have an Internet connection. Use it. Self-imposed ignorance is markedly offensive to others.

That's not how it works. You made the claim, you bring the evidence.

This is not your Court of Law, Your not-Honor. Your rules don't fly. You want to know, go get educated. I will repeat it again loud and clear : 1400 years ago Islam Gave women the right to vote

Anonymous wrote:I'm still curious, what "uni" did the nasty little poster attend, and in what ex-British colony does she actually live?