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Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:
Really??? Why didn't you say that sooner??? I would have rolled out the red carpet for you I guess your studying under that "World expert of Islam" did not teach you much unfortunately, how sad!!!....Just so you know a lot of so called 'Terrorists" or "Extremists" also "studied" Islam with a "World expert" of Islam ( what does that even mean?? world expert of Islam....) but yeah, from now i guess you are the "Expert" on this....

I liked my prof, this was at an American university before he was tapped for that post, so he's not UBL. And no, I don't feel like dragging his name through your special mudpit.

Suffice it to say that there are Muslims I trust to teach me about Islam. Including personal friends who are Muslims. But I would never trust you, with your track record of lies, insults and babyish antics, to even help me open a Quran.

Do your religion a favor and stop claiming that we need you to interpret it for us. (And hey, I thought Islam boasts it's more accessible than other religions because you can read the Quran without a cleric helping you interpret it?)

You have some deep trust issues....Repeat after me "Woossaaaa" 'Wossaaa" now take a big breath and let it go....Don't let them in, don't let them see.. Be the good girl you always have to be.Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know...Well, now they know! Let it go, let it go!!!!!!!!

When people lie to me--like you have, by using the word "equality" in a way you know is misleading--then I don't trust them. Many others have also accused you of lying. This seems to be a recurring problem for you.

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Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reformatting my earlier post to make it clear to everyone how you define Islamophobe.

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No, you made that up. I never, ever said the vast majority of Muslims are not peaceful. Your friend the moderator can verify. In fact I think the vast majority ARE peaceful.

Ergo, I never painted anyone with a broad brush. Ergo, I am not an Islamophobe.

Unless--according to one of your many other definitions of Islamophobia--it's Islamophobic to fail to agree that women's limited divorce, testimony and inheritance rights constitute "equal justice" for women and are in society's best interest.

Or unless, according to another one of your definitions of Islamophobia, it was Islamophobic to participate among the many other posters who cited Quranic verses and shariah against your personal interpretations of divorce and other laws, or who challenged you over maybe 10 pages (ten pages!) to provide stats backing up your conversion claims. I'm definitely a stickler for cites, legal rulings and stats as a way to understand what's going on in the rest of the world. I don't trust you enough to take your word on the weather, at this point. Sorry.

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And a few more points. I studied Islam with a world expert on Islam, who went on to be president of a major university in the Middle East.

On the other hand, most of us don't trust you to interpret Islam as far as we can throw you. Let's look at your multiple lies (I haven't used that word so far, but I will now) on merely secular issues:
- your attempts to spin conversations,
- your insistence that you are arguing with a single person,
- your nonsense about converts to Islam exceeding immigrants. Even though *your own numbers* showed that was a ridiculously false claim, you STILL insisted it was true for pages afterwards. (Unbelievable.)
- when you told us you lived in Falls Church and the ride-on to the metro took two hours.

It doesn't help that, besides being caught in lies, you also come off as having the maturity of a 12-year-old. Nor do you have the self restraint to drop issues you should be able to foresee you will lose.

Sorry, but there are several of us who will challenge statements like "Islam gives a good deal to female captives" or "Islam provides equal rights to women" or "converts exceed immigrants."

Signed, poster you called angry bad cook, with the spouse who wants to divorce her, the kid who is into drugs and porn, and who secretly wants to convert to Islam

Really??? Why didn't you say that sooner??? I would have rolled out the red carpet for you I guess your studying under that "World expert of Islam" did not teach you much unfortunately, how sad!!!....Just so you know a lot of so called 'Terrorists" or "Extremists" also "studied" Islam with a "World expert" of Islam ( what does that even mean?? world expert of Islam....) but yeah, from now i guess you are the "Expert" on this....

Hahaha Glad you're back, Muslima. Now I'm curious, who this world class expert on Islam was. Was it osama bin laden?

I am also curious about the so called World class expert on Islam, which we both know shall remain nameless.... But hey, I'd even be ready to take off my burqa and do the monkey dance, Gangnam Style if he is named

Hahaha then I'd start wearing mine. I don't even wear hijab now. I want the name of that world class expert teaching hate. Which ivy school might it be? Lol lol

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Anonymous wrote:You're right. I misread. Name the uni then. Top universities have well educated professors. Your posts belie your education.

You wish you had my education, grad and undergrad, and also my NMSSF. Do you remember a thread where someone pointed out that you make a characteristic grammatical error but they weren't going to tell you what it was? That was me.

But no, good as you are with insults, you're not going to insult me into revealing my "uni." (You must be posting from Britain or from a former British colony.)

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Anonymous wrote:You're right. I misread. Name the uni then. Top universities have well educated professors. Your posts belie your education.[/quote]

You wish you had my education, grad and undergrad, and also my NMSSF. Do you remember a thread where someone pointed out that you make a characteristic grammatical error but they weren't going to tell you what it was? That was me.

But no, good as you are with insults, you're not going to insult me into revealing my "uni." (You must be posting from Britain or from a former British colony.)

I don't give a shit about my persistent grammatical error or that it was you who identified it. I came here as the daughter of an immigrant Muslim family. I have a college degree, Masters degree, and a doctorate degree. I think I write pretty well considering my early education was when I lived ina developing country. You, on the other hand, were probably born here and so were your parents. I don't think you graduated from a top school. Your reasoning skills are too poor.

I really hope that nobody is judging Muslims based on your shallow and crude insults.

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And for that you got spanked because it seemed pretty clear you had an agenda.

I was not the one who started threads vilifying Christianity. I have respect for Christianity. But your islamiphobia did prompt me to challenge your biased generalizations and also to start new threads.

Some yrs back, I was curious about Christianity. I was not interested in converting. I sought knowledge. After reading the Bible, I still sought further clarification. I did not get on DCUM or any blog to vilify Christianity, I called priests and clergymen. They were quite helpful. See the difference? You had an agenda and probably still do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right. I misread. Name the uni then. Top universities have well educated professors. Your posts belie your education.[/quote]

You wish you had my education, grad and undergrad, and also my NMSSF. Do you remember a thread where someone pointed out that you make a characteristic grammatical error but they weren't going to tell you what it was? That was me.

But no, good as you are with insults, you're not going to insult me into revealing my "uni." (You must be posting from Britain or from a former British colony.)

I don't give a shit about my persistent grammatical error or that it was you who identified it. I came here as the daughter of an immigrant Muslim family. I have a college degree, Masters degree, and a doctorate degree. I think I write pretty well considering my early education was when I lived ina developing country. You, on the other hand, were probably born here and so were your parents. I don't think you graduated from a top school. Your reasoning skills are too poor.

I really hope that nobody is judging Muslims based on your shallow and crude insults.

There are strict muslims, moderate muslims, and liberal muslims. I'm somewhere in the moderate to liberal area. I fast, pray, don't drink, don't eat pork, did hajj, but if you insult me or point out petty grammatical errors to try to insult me, you better be ready for some crude language at the very least from me. I save my best language for people like you, rude, insulting, racist, islamophobes.

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Anonymous wrote:

And for that you got spanked because it seemed pretty clear you had an agenda.

I was not the one who started threads vilifying Christianity. I have respect for Christianity. But your islamiphobia did prompt me to challenge your biased generalizations and also to start new threads.

Some yrs back, I was curious about Christianity. I was not interested in converting. I sought knowledge. After reading the Bible, I still sought further clarification. I did not get on DCUM or any blog to vilify Christianity, I called priests and clergymen. They were quite helpful. See the difference? You had an agenda and probably still do.

Pretty sure you started the thread about "Why Muslims Don't Believe in the Trinity." You've also gone on tangents about how Christianity supposedly allows polygamy (!) and requires veiling (!).

And you wonder why nobody trusts you....

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Anonymous wrote:

And for that you got spanked because it seemed pretty clear you had an agenda.

I was not the one who started threads vilifying Christianity. I have respect for Christianity. But your islamiphobia did prompt me to challenge your biased generalizations and also to start new threads.

Some yrs back, I was curious about Christianity. I was not interested in converting. I sought knowledge. After reading the Bible, I still sought further clarification. I did not get on DCUM or any blog to vilify Christianity, I called priests and clergymen. They were quite helpful. See the difference? You had an agenda and probably still do.

Pretty sure you started the thread about "Why Muslims Don't Believe in the Trinity." You've also gone on tangents about how Christianity supposedly allows polygamy (!) and requires veiling (!).

And you wonder why nobody trusts you....

Anonymous wrote:Hello All,

A 22 page thread titled, "Tell me about Islam" began as what appeared to be an intelligent and sober discourse on what Islam is truly about. A Muslim woman who called herself "Muslima" offered insight into her faith. Very quickly, a handful of islamophobes swept in on her to object to her explanation of Islamic ideology and principles and they began what amounted to the systematic vilification of an entire religion that is beloved to billions of people. . . .

It is best to learn about Islam from one who lives it day to day and practices it in good faith. When a topic is not clear, seek clarification from primarily the Quran itself because only the Quran is believed by Muslims to be the only word of God [really? you sure about that?]. It is true that many Muslims rely on the hadith, which are the actions and words of Prophet Muhammad, but even some of these may be unreliable because they are the purported words of the Prophet as remembered by his companions and others. Sometimes hadith provide valuable context to Quranic principles, however. . .

In all fairness, even Muslims have taken passages from the Quran out of context. ISIS justifies the beheading of its prisoners by misinterpreting the Quran. Some scholars, not all but some, particularly in Muslim countries, have also misinterpreted the Quran. Remember that Islam originated in Arabia and pre-Islamic Arabia was a hedonistic, uncivilized, and brutally corrupt place. Deeply rooted cultural beliefs and traditions permeated their thinking and even today, people still cling to these old traditions and views. As such, the Islam practiced by some people in Muslim countries is not necessarily pure Islam or true Islam. It is influenced by a deeply entrenched, patriarchal belief system. Thus, examining the work of scholars from these countries in particular will not accurately explain true Islam. However, this is what these islamophobes will do and want the public to do, because it simply supports their cause for exclusionary practices, prejudicial and racial profiling, and their own deeply held philosophical religious beliefs. . .

Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello All,

A 22 page thread titled, "Tell me about Islam" began as what appeared to be an intelligent and sober discourse on what Islam is truly about. A Muslim woman who called herself "Muslima" offered insight into her faith. Very quickly, a handful of islamophobes swept in on her to object to her explanation of Islamic ideology and principles and they began what amounted to the systematic vilification of an entire religion that is beloved to billions of people. . . .

It is best to learn about Islam from one who lives it day to day and practices it in good faith. When a topic is not clear, seek clarification from primarily the Quran itself because only the Quran is believed by Muslims to be the only word of God [really? you sure about that?]. It is true that many Muslims rely on the hadith, which are the actions and words of Prophet Muhammad, but even some of these may be unreliable because they are the purported words of the Prophet as remembered by his companions and others. Sometimes hadith provide valuable context to Quranic principles, however. . .

In all fairness, even Muslims have taken passages from the Quran out of context. ISIS justifies the beheading of its prisoners by misinterpreting the Quran. Some scholars, not all but some, particularly in Muslim countries, have also misinterpreted the Quran. Remember that Islam originated in Arabia and pre-Islamic Arabia was a hedonistic, uncivilized, and brutally corrupt place. Deeply rooted cultural beliefs and traditions permeated their thinking and even today, people still cling to these old traditions and views. As such, the Islam practiced by some people in Muslim countries is not necessarily pure Islam or true Islam. It is influenced by a deeply entrenched, patriarchal belief system. Thus, examining the work of scholars from these countries in particular will not accurately explain true Islam. However, this is what these islamophobes will do and want the public to do, because it simply supports their cause for exclusionary practices, prejudicial and racial profiling, and their own deeply held philosophical religious beliefs. . .

Thanks.

Look at what you are saying? Are you for real? You are a hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And for that you got spanked because it seemed pretty clear you had an agenda.

I was not the one who started threads vilifying Christianity. I have respect for Christianity. But your islamiphobia did prompt me to challenge your biased generalizations and also to start new threads.

Some yrs back, I was curious about Christianity. I was not interested in converting. I sought knowledge. After reading the Bible, I still sought further clarification. I did not get on DCUM or any blog to vilify Christianity, I called priests and clergymen. They were quite helpful. See the difference? You had an agenda and probably still do.

Pretty sure you started the thread about "Why Muslims Don't Believe in the Trinity." You've also gone on tangents about how Christianity supposedly allows polygamy (!) and requires veiling (!).

And you wonder why nobody trusts you....

And your flowery personality just shines right through all of your posts. ?
You are combative, high strung, and the most argumentative and thick headed person on DCUM. I recognize your posts immediately.

Anonymous wrote:But the difference is-- the moderator himself became exasperated with you. You predominantly argue for the sake of arguing; I argued to clarify misinterpretations you made about my religion. Yes, I got a few shots in but it's not easy to be patient with someone who has an agenda and is as combative as you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And for that you got spanked because it seemed pretty clear you had an agenda.

I was not the one who started threads vilifying Christianity. I have respect for Christianity. But your islamiphobia did prompt me to challenge your biased generalizations and also to start new threads.

Some yrs back, I was curious about Christianity. I was not interested in converting. I sought knowledge. After reading the Bible, I still sought further clarification. I did not get on DCUM or any blog to vilify Christianity, I called priests and clergymen. They were quite helpful. See the difference? You had an agenda and probably still do.

Pretty sure you started the thread about "Why Muslims Don't Believe in the Trinity." You've also gone on tangents about how Christianity supposedly allows polygamy (!) and requires veiling (!).

And you wonder why nobody trusts you....

And your flowery personality just shines right through all of your posts. ?
You are combative, high strung, and the most argumentative and thick headed person on DCUM. I recognize your posts immediately.