If you or someone you know is anti-Islam, Why?

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[Post New]08/05/2014 13:45
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There isn't a single contradiction in the Quran. I know exactly the verses you are referring to, feel free to cite them and I will give you the story behind each. The Quran wasnt revealed over night but it was revealed in 23 years and verses were revealed according to what was going on at the time and there is a clear explanation of each verse of the Quran. If you want to learn the meaning of verses, you have to read what we call Tafseer of the Quran which will tell you when a verse was revealed, why it was revealed and what the meaning is



Perhaps there are no contradictions in the Quran, but the Muslims then certainly contradict what is in the book of Allah-especiaqlly the radical fundamentalist ones-they seem hell bent on the destruction of humankind.
[Post New]08/05/2014 14:29
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Anonymous wrote:Islam is the only religion I know that professes death to infidels.


Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

It doesn't matter what the reason for mass murder is. Communism, Western colonialism and imperialism are the main culprits in modern times. Islamic fundamentalism doesn't even come close. Dumbass

[Post New]08/05/2014 14:36
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Anonymous wrote:I am not anti-Islam.

I just want Muslims to stay in their own countries and not come here. Nothing good comes of it when they do.


Uh, Muslims have been coming to the United States since the 1700s.

But I would bet if you go back in time, Native Americans would say the same about Christians.


(shrug) So what? Doesn't alter the fact that they're nothing but trouble. Always have been, always will be.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not anti-Islam.

I just want Muslims to stay in their own countries and not come here. Nothing good comes of it when they do.


So you're against global migration, inter-ethnic and inter-faith marriages, and to follow your logic to its end point, you would not tolerate Christians in any majority-Muslim country?


Yes, yes, yes, and not up to me but that is in fact the case in majority Muslim countries.

Anonymous wrote:Hey! You agree on every point with Islamist extremists! Good job - clap clap clap.



Fine with me. They can run their countries however they want. And Mulsims and Christians are both better off if they stay apart from each other.
[Post New]08/05/2014 14:45
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Anonymous wrote:
Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?



No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.
[Post New]08/05/2014 14:53
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Anonymous wrote:There isn't a single contradiction in the Quran. I know exactly the verses you are referring to, feel free to cite them and I will give you the story behind each. The Quran wasnt revealed over night but it was revealed in 23 years and verses were revealed according to what was going on at the time and there is a clear explanation of each verse of the Quran. If you want to learn the meaning of verses, you have to read what we call Tafseer of the Quran which will tell you when a verse was revealed, why it was revealed and what the meaning is



Perhaps there are no contradictions in the Quran, but the Muslims then certainly contradict what is in the book of Allah-especially the radical fundamentalist ones-they seem hell bent on the destruction of humankind.


Don't judge Islam by the actions of Muslims, judge the Muslims by what they know about Islam. Islam is perfect but Muslims are not.  Many Muslims are not only ignorant of what is correct or incorrect according to Islam, but many are also very heavily involved with many cultural customs and traditions that have been a part of their lifestyle for centuries and just refuse to give them up.
One of the problems facing the world today in general and facing Muslims specifically is that unqualified people think that it is possible to read a book, badly translated into a language other then Arabic, and instantly become able to give religious rulings on subjects they really have no knowledge about.  People with very little real Islamic knowledge suddenly become experts while the real experts are unable to have their opinions heard.  Extreme groups preach extreme ideologies that have no place in the way of life that is Islam.  Islam is the middle ground, extreme is not from the teachings of Islam. We are told in the Quran :" And We have created you a middle ground (moderate) nation”” The need to be moderate and temperate is a central message within Islam.
[Post New]08/05/2014 14:58
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Anonymous wrote:I am not anti-Islam.

I just want Muslims to stay in their own countries and not come here. Nothing good comes of it when they do.


Silly and misguided.

Most Muslims who live here were born here. So they likely will stay in their country. The US.

Up to a third of the slaves were Muslim. They built this country that you enjoy.
[Post New]08/05/2014 15:11
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"You monotone Humans are all alike. First you condemn and then attack!"
[Post New]08/05/2014 15:23
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not anti-Islam because i am too ignorant for that, but from the little I know, I would not approve of A) worshiping a man rather than a god and B) worshiping and following the advice of a soldier-man at that. How would a soldier help a people live in peace and be better people, which are things I think matter the most in a religion?


I think we are one of the only religions out there that totally reject worshiping of a man , idol, ect . In fact the declaration of faith for one who wants to embrace Islam is: "Ashadu Alla Ilaha Illallah wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan rasoolullah", which means when translated to English: "There is nothing worthy of worship but Allah; alone, and Muhammad is His Messenger." Worshiping anything else is to associate partners with Allah, and it is the only sin that would never be forgiven on the Day of Judgment.


Religions are only as true and real as the ideologies they stand for. When a religion ventures into the realm of claiming superiority or denigrating other religions , belief systems, it loses credibility. There are myriad ways of reaching God. Who is anyone to dictate one way is superior to other. That's where you lose me


Well it is not just anyone after all, it is God, the Creator of the universe, that would surely be a right He would have, don't you think? But that's where Faith comes in, you cant have a religion without faith.


God revealed him/herself to many people not just Mohammed. God in my belief is pure, boundless love. There are no restrictions on how I choose to worship my God. Neither would I deem myself worthy enough to comment how you or anyone else does
[Post New]08/05/2014 15:28
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not anti-Islam because i am too ignorant for that, but from the little I know, I would not approve of A) worshiping a man rather than a god and B) worshiping and following the advice of a soldier-man at that. How would a soldier help a people live in peace and be better people, which are things I think matter the most in a religion?


I think we are one of the only religions out there that totally reject worshiping of a man , idol, ect . In fact the declaration of faith for one who wants to embrace Islam is: "Ashadu Alla Ilaha Illallah wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan rasoolullah", which means when translated to English: "There is nothing worthy of worship but Allah; alone, and Muhammad is His Messenger." Worshiping anything else is to associate partners with Allah, and it is the only sin that would never be forgiven on the Day of Judgment.


Religions are only as true and real as the ideologies they stand for. When a religion ventures into the realm of claiming superiority or denigrating other religions , belief systems, it loses credibility. There are myriad ways of reaching God. Who is anyone to dictate one way is superior to other. That's where you lose me


Well it is not just anyone after all, it is God, the Creator of the universe, that would surely be a right He would have, don't you think? But that's where Faith comes in, you cant have a religion without faith.


God revealed him/herself to many people not just Mohammed. God in my belief is pure, boundless love. There are no restrictions on how I choose to worship my God. Neither would I deem myself worthy enough to comment how you or anyone else does


And no one can argue with that. That is a basic right that the Creator Himself gave to His Creation . "There shall be no compulsion in religion". So you are free to believe in whatever and however you want. Muslims choose to believe that His way is Al Islam, Christians choose to believe in Christianity and Jews in the Torah, and that is their right too.
[Post New]08/05/2014 15:35
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Anonymous wrote:I am not anti-Islam.

I just want Muslims to stay in their own countries and not come here. Nothing good comes of it when they do.


Silly and misguided.

Most Muslims who live here were born here. So they likely will stay in their country. The US.

Up to a third of the slaves were Muslim. They built this country that you enjoy.


Do you have a site for this? I have never read that before. I have heard several hundred but not A third. Where did you read that statistic?
[Post New]08/05/2014 15:55
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Anonymous wrote:
Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?



No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.


Yeah, except the only heretics murdered weren't just put to death by the spanish inquisition. It happened all over Europe. Edward the viii used it as a pretext to divorce his wife; by heheading her for heresy. It spanned from the birth of christianity in 380 to 1826. It happened in the US where boston puritans killed quackers. So no, i don't trust your count or your history.
[Post New]08/05/2014 16:00
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To clarify, the first known instance of criminalization of heresy was in 380ad. It is believed that the murder of heretics was around earlier toward the beginning of christianity but the cases are not documented.
[Post New]08/05/2014 17:34
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Anonymous wrote:Islam is the only religion I know that professes death to infidels.


You can sort of put the Crusades in that category, no????
[Post New]08/05/2014 17:41
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I hate the hijab, the niqab and the burqa, although I don't think (might be wrong) it stems from the Quran.

oppressive forms of clothing

same could be said for Jewish dress codes for women (tznuit)

[Post New]08/05/2014 19:09
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Anonymous wrote:I hate the hijab, the niqab and the burqa, although I don't think (might be wrong) it stems from the Quran.

oppressive forms of clothing

same could be said for Jewish dress codes for women (tznuit)




Really? I love them. There is nothing more beautiful to me than a veiled woman. I'm not too hot on the burqa but I love the hijab & niqab. I don't think of them as "Oppressive' at all, to the contrary I find them liberating. It's all about perception....

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