Anonymous wrote:Biased post is biased.[/quote

Uh, yeah, and blue sky is blue (and your statement is redundant.)

If I'm biased, I'm biased in favor of wanting to protect my kids and others from random shootings, especially with rapid-fire military-style ones, that are too available to criminals and the mentally ill. I'm biased in favor of common sense measures and fail to undestand why society goes to such lengths to keep a young man from a beer but not from such weaponry. I'm biased against industry lobbies that once embraced measures like universal background checks, but now use extremist, racially-tinged survivalist arguments against such measures because their usual tactics of fear and intimidation don't work as well after Newtown.

I fully agree that we need more and better treatment for the mentally ill. (Is the Tea Party willing to fund it?) I also want to see restraint and controls on violent video games. But mental illness and violent-themed games and other media are not unique to the U.S. Indeed, most industrialized Western countries are pretty similar to the U.S. No, what makes the U.S. different from these countries -- the tragic element of American "exceptionalism" if you like -- is the rate and sheer number of deaths from firearms. What's the variable that is not constant here? Our easy access to guns, especially powerful military-style weapons.

Anonymous wrote:Knives, baseball bats do not cause as much damage as guns.

And you cannot seriously compare Swiss gun culture, or just culture, to ours. There are many differences.

FBO wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Knives, baseball bats do not cause as much damage as guns.

And you cannot seriously compare Swiss gun culture, or just culture, to ours. There are many differences.

I can do more damage with a $.25 book of matches and $1.00 in gasoline than all of the above. You missed the point.

FBO wrote:^^ This post displays the ignorance perpetrated by the Brady bunch and the media and shows that you have ZERO understanding of how the weapons laws, and what legal ownership means in this country. Please spend some time at a range and LEARN something about the subject matter in which you speak. This is said in all seriousness and I am even willing to take you.

Also, look into the Swiss culture; they own weapons UNAVAILABLE to the US consumer market, and by your own definition are much more deadly, yet they manage to get along just fine. You are blaming the wrong things.

If not a gun, a car. If not a car, a knife. If not a knife, a baseball bat. If not a baseball bat, a pair of scissors. If not scissors, homemade explosives. The tool is not the problem because people that mean to do harm to others, will ALWAYS find a tool available to do the job.

Marine, father, gun owner.

Anonymous wrote:

FBO wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Knives, baseball bats do not cause as much damage as guns.

And you cannot seriously compare Swiss gun culture, or just culture, to ours. There are many differences.

I can do more damage with a $.25 book of matches and $1.00 in gasoline than all of the above. You missed the point.

They will ALWAYS miss the point. Because liberals do not brlieve in personal accountability

FBO wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Knives, baseball bats do not cause as much damage as guns.

And you cannot seriously compare Swiss gun culture, or just culture, to ours. There are many differences.

I can do more damage with a $.25 book of matches and $1.00 in gasoline than all of the above. You missed the point.

FBO wrote:^^ This post displays the ignorance perpetrated by the Brady bunch and the media and shows that you have ZERO understanding of how the weapons laws, and what legal ownership means in this country. Please spend some time at a range and LEARN something about the subject matter in which you speak. This is said in all seriousness and I am even willing to take you.

Also, look into the Swiss culture; they own weapons UNAVAILABLE to the US consumer market, and by your own definition are much more deadly, yet they manage to get along just fine. You are blaming the wrong things.

If not a gun, a car. If not a car, a knife. If not a knife, a baseball bat. If not a baseball bat, a pair of scissors. If not scissors, homemade explosives. The tool is not the problem because people that mean to do harm to others, will ALWAYS find a tool available to do the job.

Marine, father, gun owner.

Anonymous wrote:
np. I have 30 years of experience with firearms including competition and you are full of shit.

Anonymous wrote:

np. I have 30 years of experience with firearms including competition and you are full of shit.


Sorry dude, but that made me laugh. How does your 30yrs of experience 'including competition' prove that I am full of shit? Does your '30yrs of experience' negate my own experiences in competition, recreation, hunting, and (*gosh) combat? Sorry brother, but it does not. Did you have a relevant response to post?

Anyone can throw around credentials but its a little harder to do that critical thinking stuff huh?


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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

np. I have 30 years of experience with firearms including competition and you are full of shit.


Sorry dude, but that made me laugh. How does your 30yrs of experience 'including competition' prove that I am full of shit? Does your '30yrs of experience' negate my own experiences in competition, recreation, hunting, and (*gosh) combat? Sorry brother, but it does not. Did you have a relevant response to post?

Anyone can throw around credentials but its a little harder to do that critical thinking stuff huh?


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Crazy gun nut. Just a few days till you go out and shoot a cop, school bus driver, or a preschool. Looks like the FBI and law enforcement has reduced your numbers over the past month. All heil the NRA.