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Anonymous
| Who the hell is Dawkins and why would any of us care what he has to say? |
Anonymous
I LOVE YOU! |
Anonymous
This impenetrable idiot somehow bothered to read all the way to the end of the chapter you are quoting. So I know how his argument ends. You apparently do not. |
Anonymous
| Oh and I'm not ranting atheist. I'm catholic. |
RantingAtheist
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Wow, you guys really have gone off the deep end. Some other anonymous contributor here may have claimed to have disproved the existence of gods. I haven't. In fact, the handle "RantingAtheist" was essentially a "tweak" at the one or two angry theists who conflate some number of non-theist posters as "the Ranting Atheist" and various sock-puppets. As though not believing in a supernatural being is so far from mainstream thought that it's improbable that more than one individual could suffer from such a delusion. Anyway, as to the previous point, there's a significant difference between not being able to "prove" a negative, and not being sure. Which is, of course, the whole point of FSM: No one can be 100% sure of the non-existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but we don't have a special category for those folks. We could all of us be living in a reality being dreamed by a unicorn sleeping under a World Tree--by Dawkins' rules, none of us can say with 100% certainty that this is not the case. So we are all unicorn dream agnostics. |
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Just want to say, given your comments, and the contrast between yours and other self-described Christians on DCUM, you may be the only one here. Quick! Register as "TheDCUMChristian" while it's still available! 
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Anonymous
Imagine the two of us on the same side of an argument. Dogs and cats living together! Well, I have my beliefs and you have yours. But honestly it pisses me off when people misrepresent a belief system. The earlier posters quote a snippet of Dawkins and distort it in a way clearly opposite of the text they lifted it from in the same way that one might lift a passage from the Koran to prove that Muslims are evil. And this whole issue of Mitt Romney not qualifying as a real Christian gets me, not that I'm even Republican. I guess it all started when someone asked me if I was a Christian and I said "yes, I'm Catholic" and they asked me if I was "born again". I said "yes, I was baptized and confirmed" and they proceeded to explain why I was not yet saved. While I have your attention, I do think they have a point, which is that atheists often mock the notion of faith. I think that there is enough data on humans to recognize that all of us make decisions based on factors other than reason. In fact, there may be data to suggest that free will itself is an illusion, therefore making moot any judgment about what is relevant in defining beliefs at all (the fields of biology, and also cosmology). Even an atheist can appreciate that, not that we shouldn't try hard to form good beliefs. Yes, they bring it on themselves by trying to prove God through reason, especially when they are not particularly well versed in the ground already covered by the philosophers. But it's OK for people to be at a different point in the discovery process. Everyone starts from scratch and has to work through these ideas as though they are new. So I suggest that as long as theists approach proof of God with some humility, that atheists should counter in a respectful way. That way we all grow. |
Anonymous
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The Ranting Atheist will never show respect to people of faith. Her name says as much.
Thanks for trying, though. |
Anonymous
| Seriously, 16:55. Have you seen some of the abuse the Ranting Atheist and other atheists here dish out to people of faith? It's too much fun to stop, just because you said pretty please. It seems to be, if I may go so far, the whole meaning of her life. |
Anonymous
| The atheists on DCUM are bullies and trolls. With one exception who generally identifies herself and calls out the others. |
Anonymous
I have seen arrogance on both sides. A few months ago there was a thread titled "Why don't you believe in God?". The original post implied that the source of many people's troubles was a lack of faith, then lamented about how atheists call faith "dumb", and invited responses. The first response was
And the second response was
and the THIRD response was:
And this went on and on for quite some time, with OP actually thanking people for their responses and without anyone calling anyone else "dumb". So I think the idea that there is one nice Atheist and a bunch of bullies is flat out wrong. You remember the wacko, and the atheists remember the smug Christian who says "if you don't have faith, it is because you haven't truly opened your heart". |
Anonymous
| I'm sick of smug catholics who think they understand Dawkins and atheists better than anybody else. |
Anonymous
| I can't deal with the pro-lifers either, or the "open your heart posters." But I personally have seen a lot more nasty atheist postings. Maybe it's just one atheist and the rest are sweetie-pies. Or maybe I've been on here longer than you. I don't know. But check out the "what are you giving up for Lent" thread for a recent display of atheists' (one atheist? several atheists?) dumb and insulting one-liners. |
Anonymous
D really appreciate it if you would read the whole chapter from the book you cite. It's only nine pages long. |
Anonymous
| Are you talking to me? I read the link to the Cambridge thing. It seemed pretty clear: Dawkins calls himself agnostic. |