Huntsman tweeted that he believes in evolution and climate change.

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[Post New]08/19/2011 00:01
Anonymous
Why on earth is he running as a Republican?
[Post New]08/19/2011 00:16
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why on earth is he running as a Republican?


republicans are not anti-science.
[Post New]08/19/2011 01:58
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why on earth is he running as a Republican?


republicans are not anti-science.


it would be nice if that was reflected in your choice of presidential candidates.
[Post New]08/19/2011 05:34
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why on earth is he running as a Republican?


republicans are not anti-science.


it would be nice if that was reflected in your choice of presidential candidates.


And policies... And elected official statements.. And party rhetoric...
[Post New]08/19/2011 07:22
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why on earth is he running as a Republican?


Pretty sure this will be a nail in his coffin. There is no way he will ever get the nomination now. So sad, but I'm not even joking.
[Post New]08/19/2011 07:58
Anonymous
The fact that this statement is newsworthy is sad.
[Post New]08/19/2011 08:08
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this statement is newsworthy is sad.


My parents were Republicans. They were in favor of gun control and pro-choice; they believed in conserving natural resources, environmental regulations, growing and buying local, organic food. They were fiscally conservative and thought people should be responsible for paying for their own retirement, and very much against welfare and medicaid.

They would be called Democrats today. They would be chagrined to see their beloved party taken over by the Tea Party and all the right-wing, religious conservatives. My parents thought these people were simple-minded.

My parents also believed in Evolution, and would shake their heads at anyone who didn't. Climate change hadn't entered the lexicon in their day, but they would have "believed" in that too because they were reasonable, rational people who were very concerned about the degradation of our environment by human activity.

Sad, indeed.
[Post New]08/19/2011 09:06
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why on earth is he running as a Republican?


Pretty sure this will be a nail in his coffin. There is no way he will ever get the nomination now. So sad, but I'm not even joking.


Not that he had a chance before this statement, but yeah. Just the fact that he worked in a Democratic administration doomed him - although his answer on that question (to paraphrase - "The President called and asked me to serve as Ambassador to the largest nation on earth - of course I said yes. If someone would have said no, they have no business running for President in the first place.") was perfect, and absolutely correct. He's too conservative for me, still, but I respect him a great deal. Can't say that about too many other prospective VP nominees (if any).
[Post New]08/19/2011 09:16
takoma
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For me, there are two totally different meanings for the term "religious". There are thse who believe in an abstract God, who represents goodness and order, and who brings together people in pursuit of peace and charity.

Then there are those who believe in a God who jealously adheres to the wording of books written millenia ago, and resents anything that calls their details into question.

I happen to be agnostic, but I think my beliefs are basically the same as the first group, differing only in that I do not see the point of personalizing that goodness and order under the name God.

The religious right in this country, unfortunately, appears to be controlled by the second group.
[Post New]08/19/2011 09:23
Anonymous
evolution is an established scientific theory. I don't think it appropriate to put climate change in that category. way too unsettled, with too many details left to be sketched out.
[Post New]08/19/2011 10:03
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this statement is newsworthy is sad.


My parents were Republicans. They were in favor of gun control and pro-choice; they believed in conserving natural resources, environmental regulations, growing and buying local, organic food. They were fiscally conservative and thought people should be responsible for paying for their own retirement, and very much against welfare and medicaid.

They would be called Democrats today. They would be chagrined to see their beloved party taken over by the Tea Party and all the right-wing, religious conservatives. My parents thought these people were simple-minded.

My parents also believed in Evolution, and would shake their heads at anyone who didn't. Climate change hadn't entered the lexicon in their day, but they would have "believed" in that too because they were reasonable, rational people who were very concerned about the degradation of our environment by human activity.

Sad, indeed.


No offense to your parents but I don't any Republicans that believe in environmental regulations or any regulations that hamper business in this country. That's why they all flee to other countries that care little in the way of protecting workers and the environment from harm. Very short sighted, short-term profit driven philosophy.
[Post New]08/19/2011 10:06
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this statement is newsworthy is sad.


My parents were Republicans. They were in favor of gun control and pro-choice; they believed in conserving natural resources, environmental regulations, growing and buying local, organic food. They were fiscally conservative and thought people should be responsible for paying for their own retirement, and very much against welfare and medicaid.

They would be called Democrats today. They would be chagrined to see their beloved party taken over by the Tea Party and all the right-wing, religious conservatives. My parents thought these people were simple-minded.

My parents also believed in Evolution, and would shake their heads at anyone who didn't. Climate change hadn't entered the lexicon in their day, but they would have "believed" in that too because they were reasonable, rational people who were very concerned about the degradation of our environment by human activity.

Sad, indeed.


No offense to your parents but I don't any Republicans that believe in environmental regulations or any regulations that hamper business in this country. That's why they all flee to other countries that care little in the way of protecting workers and the environment from harm. Very short sighted, short-term profit driven philosophy.


I think the pp's point was that an earlier generation of Republicans were not bound to all think exactly alike on all issues in order to be members of the GOP. Things have changed.
[Post New]08/19/2011 10:38
TheManWithAUsername
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Anonymous wrote:I think the pp's point was that an earlier generation of Republicans were not bound to all think exactly alike on all issues in order to be members of the GOP. Things have changed.

I think it was also that the more libertarian voices have been drowned out. The TPers sometimes talk libertarian values, but the common TPer is just the same jingoist, religious, angry white person the GOP has been successfully exploiting since Reagan.
[Post New]08/19/2011 10:43
Anonymous
Sadly, there is no room in the Republican party for moderates.
[Post New]08/19/2011 10:50
Anonymous
everybody believes in climate change, the sun has everything to do with it and it might even start cooling soon. nobody respects al "sex poodle" gore and his caterwalling about the earth turning into a fire-ball.
evolution is much more complicated thatn belief or non-belief. as John Lennon said "I don't believe we came from monkeys...it is something else". natural selection exists in some cases but not all. gay people wouldn't last 2 generations if evolution were "true".
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