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Anonymous
| Dude, you missed 8. What's number 8 on your list? I need to know to make an informed opinion. |
Anonymous
I'm not the OP, so I am not worried about "hate crimes". I don't understand what a hate crime even is. But if you can honestly look at that table, and tell me we don't need to have a frank discussion about african american crime (and incarceration rates) statistics, then I guess this conversation is over. Everything should be on the table - racism, disadvantages, oppression, police brutality, etc. |
takoma
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Add unemployment to that list. |
Anonymous
OK so start another thread. The OP is about how blacks don't get charged with hate crimes, ie that there is a double standard in the application of the law that favor blacks. The statistics on hate crimes refute that. |
Anonymous
| I agree, OP. It only seems to be labeled a hate crime if committed by a white person. And all crimes are hate crimes so the label is pointless. |
Anonymous
Agree. And I have heard these crimes discussed as hate crimes on NPR. |
Anonymous
How does it SEEM that way when 36% of the time a nonwhite is the offender? |
TheManWithAUsername
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That's quite a straw man you've built. I didn't say anything like what you suggest. The OP said that black-on-white gang/mob violence is increasing, and that it's attributable to the "Liberal Welfare State." No one has supported those claims. I'm not sure what frank discussion you think needs be had, but you're welcome to start one. If your only point in that conversation will be "blacks commit proportionally more crime," I don't think it will be a very interesting discussion. I didn't understand your last sentence. |
Anonymous
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Remember that most stats are conducted via report, many of those reports are self-reports, which tend to be very unreliable. Blacks get dissed and then go cry to the authorities or the EEOC about how they are disadvantaged yada ya. Even here in DC they are crying the blues about getting pushed out of their neighborhoods etc. Of course many AA's forget that up NAWTH they moved into the cities in neighborhoods that were primarily white and then pushed the White folks out. Just look at West Philadelphia or NYC. Many whites don't report the hate they receive from blacks because they know they do not have a voice in the liberalized media, which by the way, is losinbg and will lose ground thanks to the Internet, which of course the elite are trying to monitor, control, etc. |
TheManWithAUsername
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Scared and angry white guys don't have an outlet for their speech. Maybe you should all start your own news network. |
Anonymous
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Good idea. And more white women should have more kids again, by the way, that trend is happening. |
Anonymous
the crime rate amongst young african americans is a crisis. that is my point. if you find that uninteresting, so be it. what I want to do is to find out the reasons for it and how we can change it. |
Anonymous
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Hey OP, I know where you emigrate to? South Africa about 1948. I promise you, you'll love it! Just be sure to die before, oh, the 90s.
We won't miss you. |
TheManWithAUsername
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OK. First, you need to separate out the arrest rate, the conviction rate, and the actual crime rate. The actual crime rate is hard to say, because the arrest rate is higher in part because of racism and socioeconomic factors. The conviction rate is doubly skewed for those same reasons. A white guy is much less likely to get arrested for possession than a black guy is, and is less likely to be convicted once arrested. We can't know for sure the true crime rate, then, but I tend to believe that it's higher among blacks. A "crisis?" I don't know - do you have some reason to believe that it's higher now, or increasing? Assuming it is higher, why is that so? Poverty. Poverty, poverty, poverty, and what poverty has created in a subculture. We can change that, over some decades, by guaranteeing jobs at living wages to everyone willing and by dramatically improving schools, among other things. We could afford that by increasing taxes on the wealthy and by controlling military spending. Alternatively, a cheaper solution could include a paid sterilization program, but that will take longer and will be less comprehensive. |
Anonymous
Great, start a topic on the crime rate among black youth. This thread is about hate crimes, and how we don't call it hate crimes if people are black. That is not true and not relevant to your point. So put your point somewhere else. |