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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Remember that most stats are conducted via report, many of those reports are self-reports, which tend to be very unreliable.

Blacks get dissed and then go cry to the authorities or the EEOC about how they are disadvantaged yada ya.

Even here in DC they are crying the blues about getting pushed out of their neighborhoods etc. Of course many AA's forget that up NAWTH they moved into the cities in neighborhoods that were primarily white and then pushed the White folks out. Just look at West Philadelphia or NYC.

Many whites don't report the hate they receive from blacks because they know they do not have a voice in the liberalized media, which by the way, is losinbg and will lose ground thanks to the Internet, which of course the elite are trying to monitor, control, etc.

1. This is bullshit. The stats I cited were from the FBI based on actual convictions. Read the data that is being put in front of you before you talk nonsense.

2. EEOC is about employment discrimination. Are you changing the subject here, or are you too thick-headed to know the difference?

3. The media does not have anything to do with prosecuting hate crimes. Prosecutors do, most of whom are white.

You're starting to sound like a garden variety conspiracy theorist. Wake Up to that.

[Anonymous]

TheManWithAUsername wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the crime rate amongst young african americans is a crisis. that is my point. if you find that uninteresting, so be it. what I want to do is to find out the reasons for it and how we can change it.

OK.

First, you need to separate out the arrest rate, the conviction rate, and the actual crime rate. The actual crime rate is hard to say, because the arrest rate is higher in part because of racism and socioeconomic factors. The conviction rate is doubly skewed for those same reasons. A white guy is much less likely to get arrested for possession than a black guy is, and is less likely to be convicted once arrested.

We can't know for sure the true crime rate, then, but I tend to believe that it's higher among blacks. A "crisis?" I don't know - do you have some reason to believe that it's higher now, or increasing?

Assuming it is higher, why is that so? Poverty. Poverty, poverty, poverty, and what poverty has created in a subculture.

We can change that, over some decades, by guaranteeing jobs at living wages to everyone willing and by dramatically improving schools, among other things. We could afford that by increasing taxes on the wealthy and by controlling military spending.

Alternatively, a cheaper solution could include a paid sterilization program, but that will take longer and will be less comprehensive.

Nice, pp.
We should also add that a lot of crime is black-on-black and white-on-white. I live in a racially and economically mixed neighborhood. My white dd was sexually assaulted by a rich white kid at her private school in the upper Northwest. No one bothered her in her majority-black DCPS school. She got her drugs from rich white kids in Bethesda not from the black students at her DCPS school. Yeah, there have been some murders in my neighborhood - and in every case the victim and the perpetrator were the same race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give those black youths decent educational opportunities from the get go, shield them from gangs with good after-school programs, help their parents make a living wage to preserve the family unit, rehabilitate their incarcerated relatives instead of relegating them to the refuse bin of society, and maybe they will feel more kindly towards your sort.

We appear to live in the only country in which socialism for the rich is hallowed, while socialism for the poor is considered a crime against nature.

And if you don't want to do those things, shut up.

I have to agree with this poster. This economy has been hardest on minorities and the young. They have every right to be angry. I. Am surprised there isn't more violence! Give it time, the Mad Max days are coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

TheManWithAUsername wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the crime rate amongst young african americans is a crisis. that is my point. if you find that uninteresting, so be it. what I want to do is to find out the reasons for it and how we can change it.

OK.

First, you need to separate out the arrest rate, the conviction rate, and the actual crime rate. The actual crime rate is hard to say, because the arrest rate is higher in part because of racism and socioeconomic factors. The conviction rate is doubly skewed for those same reasons. A white guy is much less likely to get arrested for possession than a black guy is, and is less likely to be convicted once arrested.

We can't know for sure the true crime rate, then, but I tend to believe that it's higher among blacks. A "crisis?" I don't know - do you have some reason to believe that it's higher now, or increasing?

Assuming it is higher, why is that so? Poverty. Poverty, poverty, poverty, and what poverty has created in a subculture.

We can change that, over some decades, by guaranteeing jobs at living wages to everyone willing and by dramatically improving schools, among other things. We could afford that by increasing taxes on the wealthy and by controlling military spending.

Alternatively, a cheaper solution could include a paid sterilization program, but that will take longer and will be less comprehensive.

Nice, pp.
We should also add that a lot of crime is black-on-black and white-on-white. I live in a racially and economically mixed neighborhood. My white dd was sexually assaulted by a rich white kid at her private school in the upper Northwest. No one bothered her in her majority-black DCPS school. She got her drugs from rich white kids in Bethesda not from the black students at her DCPS school. Yeah, there have been some murders in my neighborhood - and in every case the victim and the perpetrator were the same race.

how is any of that relevant? look at the robbery arrests, which are not inflated or over-reported. black youths are about 8X more likely to be arrested for robbery. that is not a crisis? who cares if it is increasing? if it were 5X it would still be a national emergency. entire generations are lost and you want to question the statistics? sad.

[TheManWithAUsername]

Anonymous wrote:how is any of that relevant? look at the robbery arrests, which are not inflated or over-reported. black youths are about 8X more likely to be arrested for robbery. that is not a crisis? who cares if it is increasing? if it were 5X it would still be a national emergency. entire generations are lost and you want to question the statistics? sad.

Re "crisis," the term usually refers to a relatively small period of time, so the trend does matter.

Moreover, the relative crime rate - which, again, is very difficult to determine - would not by itself indicate a problem. You could just as well talk about what a fantastically low crime rate there is for whites.

That wasn't your point or mine, though. You said that you were deeply concerned about this and that you wanted to diagnose the problem and solve it. I proposed to you a cause and a solution. You've done nothing but blah blah back, affirming my suspicion that in fact you don't care at all about solving anything, but just want to shroud your race panic in faux concern.

[Anonymous]

PP's convinced me! Time to bring back segregated water fountains and re-segregate schools, since black people just can't handle fancy book-learning.