Schools more difficult to get in than their rankings appear to indicate

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Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.


UT in fact is the most friendly to high stats nerds. They often get rejected by MIt, UCs, CMU, ivies, sometimes by all of them; then only to find UT Austin has the mercy to accept the nerds. Don’t forget to apply to UT if you have one at home. You will be grateful.
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Anonymous wrote:If you are out of state, Georgia, has gotten very hard to get into. It's a great school, it's SEC, - super popular now. It's not quite there yet but it's almost in UNC and UVA territory in terms of how hard it is for an out of state applicant to get into.

It absolutely is not nearing either of those two schools in admissions difficulty. I know at least one 1300 who got in last year.


Oh. You know one person. A non-random sample of one? I see. OK.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are out of state, Georgia, has gotten very hard to get into. It's a great school, it's SEC, - super popular now. It's not quite there yet but it's almost in UNC and UVA territory in terms of how hard it is for an out of state applicant to get into.

It absolutely is not nearing either of those two schools in admissions difficulty. I know at least one 1300 who got in last year.


Oh. You know one person. A non-random sample of one? I see. OK.


My DS admitted out of state this cycle. He passed for GT for engineering UT takes like like close to 50% in state l think
Anonymous
Wild that this board needs to “well actually” for a week because people can’t get their arms around the idea that the “top” 150ish schools in the country are hard to get into. Like, you people think Emory has no right to say no to a kid with a certain SAT score. Not prestigious enough. Love it.
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Emory said “no” to my 1500+ SAT kid. As did several other places where their scores placed them in the 50th-75th percentile. Fortunately their “range of expectation” was realistic and they weren’t surprised or disappointed.
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Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.


UT in fact is the most friendly to high stats nerds. They often get rejected by MIt, UCs, CMU, ivies, sometimes by all of them; then only to find UT Austin has the mercy to accept the nerds. Don’t forget to apply to UT if you have one at home. You will be grateful.


My son was accepted to UC Berkeley, Wharton and Cornell and was rejected by UT. (Business). We are in florida. 1580 SAT, 36 ACT, 99/100 GPA.
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Anonymous wrote:Wild that this board needs to “well actually” for a week because people can’t get their arms around the idea that the “top” 150ish schools in the country are hard to get into. Like, you people think Emory has no right to say no to a kid with a certain SAT score. Not prestigious enough. Love it.

For T25 privates, Emory’s selectivity has increased the most. Especially their test scores.
georgeglass
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Anonymous wrote:Vt now has more than 1/2 its class from first gen students. That disadvantages many applicants with college educated parents, disproportionately those from Northern VA. The % first gen at WM and UVA is much lower.


Please provide your citation.


Not the other poster, but can provide real numbers!

VT enrolled 943 First Generation students for 2024-25 out of 7,289 in the freshman class. I wasn't a math major, but that's certainly not "more than half."
Source - https://udc.vt.edu/irdata/data/students/admission/index#college

More data for other comments - the longstanding belief that NOVA kids get accepted at lower rates than other localities. You can check that for yourself for any county/city and VA public college here - https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/b8_admissions_locality.asp
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are out of state, Georgia, has gotten very hard to get into. It's a great school, it's SEC, - super popular now. It's not quite there yet but it's almost in UNC and UVA territory in terms of how hard it is for an out of state applicant to get into.

It absolutely is not nearing either of those two schools in admissions difficulty. I know at least one 1300 who got in last year.


Oh. You know one person. A non-random sample of one? I see. OK.


+1 the amount of “I know a kid that did X therefore it is broadly true across millions of students” here is so baffling.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.


UT in fact is the most friendly to high stats nerds. They often get rejected by MIt, UCs, CMU, ivies, sometimes by all of them; then only to find UT Austin has the mercy to accept the nerds. Don’t forget to apply to UT if you have one at home. You will be grateful.


My son was accepted to UC Berkeley, Wharton and Cornell and was rejected by UT. (Business). We are in florida. 1580 SAT, 36 ACT, 99/100 GPA.


PP was more specifically talking about engineering nerds. UT Turing scholars program particularly favors tech nerds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.


UT in fact is the most friendly to high stats nerds. They often get rejected by MIt, UCs, CMU, ivies, sometimes by all of them; then only to find UT Austin has the mercy to accept the nerds. Don’t forget to apply to UT if you have one at home. You will be grateful.


My son was accepted to UC Berkeley, Wharton and Cornell and was rejected by UT. (Business). We are in florida. 1580 SAT, 36 ACT, 99/100 GPA.


Yes, I have one as well-accepted to Cornell, Michigan, UNC, UVA, UCLA, Northwestern and Yale. waitlisted to another 4 Ivies this year.
Rejected outright to UT Austin.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.


UT in fact is the most friendly to high stats nerds. They often get rejected by MIt, UCs, CMU, ivies, sometimes by all of them; then only to find UT Austin has the mercy to accept the nerds. Don’t forget to apply to UT if you have one at home. You will be grateful.


My son was accepted to UC Berkeley, Wharton and Cornell and was rejected by UT. (Business). We are in florida. 1580 SAT, 36 ACT, 99/100 GPA.


Yes, I have one as well-accepted to Cornell, Michigan, UNC, UVA, UCLA, Northwestern and Yale. waitlisted to another 4 Ivies this year.
Rejected outright to UT Austin.


I should add the only other rejection was Stanford. Non-STEM.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.


UT in fact is the most friendly to high stats nerds. They often get rejected by MIt, UCs, CMU, ivies, sometimes by all of them; then only to find UT Austin has the mercy to accept the nerds. Don’t forget to apply to UT if you have one at home. You will be grateful.


My son was accepted to UC Berkeley, Wharton and Cornell and was rejected by UT. (Business). We are in florida. 1580 SAT, 36 ACT, 99/100 GPA.


Yes, I have one as well-accepted to Cornell, Michigan, UNC, UVA, UCLA, Northwestern and Yale. waitlisted to another 4 Ivies this year.
Rejected outright to UT Austin.


I should add the only other rejection was Stanford. Non-STEM.


Darn…my kid got accepted out of state. Chose another school. They are very heavily in-state. We visited - it was ok.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vt now has more than 1/2 its class from first gen students. That disadvantages many applicants with college educated parents, disproportionately those from Northern VA. The % first gen at WM and UVA is much lower.


Please provide your citation.


Will this continue with the de-emphasis on DEI? I’ve been wondering if they will change for the upcoming admissions cycle.
georgeglass
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vt now has more than 1/2 its class from first gen students. That disadvantages many applicants with college educated parents, disproportionately those from Northern VA. The % first gen at WM and UVA is much lower.


Please provide your citation.


Will this continue with the de-emphasis on DEI? I’ve been wondering if they will change for the upcoming admissions cycle.


Will what continue? that 87% of freshman are not first generation students?
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