Schools more difficult to get in than their rankings appear to indicate

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts is one.
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Tulane.

Tulane, Tufts, Chicago are all in the "ED or bust" category. Either much easier or much harder to get into than rankings indicate, depending how you apply.

Wild differences between these. I literally don’t know anyone that has been rejected from Tulane. Uchicago uber hard and WF middle of the road.

Agree Chicago is the most difficult admit.

But it is also school dependent. Horace Mann sends a large drove to Chicago each year. At these feeders, an average student can get in ED.
At non-feeder high schools, yes it can be "uber hard".

In fairness, Horace Mann is one of the most rigorous HS in the country (I don't have a child there), widely known for grade deflation. Even an average student there is still a top student.

School matters. Stuy is another Chicago feeder, large droves I believe. Haven’t checked out their matriculation for a while things might have changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Any schools whose institutional priorities require a series of narrow hooks, like FGLI, URM, athletic recruits. Swarthmore, Pomona, and Amherst are two examples. Tiny cohorts, majority URM and/or recruited athletes. There might as well be a sign telling high stats Asian and white kids not to apply.

Lots of recruited athletes are white kids. And, recruited athletes tend to be more socially adept than the population at large. They are also generally harder working and better at time management.

Oh please

Unless the kid is multi-sport, they are not harder working than kid with year-round time-intensive ECs. Whether high-level academic, instrumental etc.

No disrespect to kids in year round time-intensive ECs, but this is a profound display of ignorance about the commitment required to participate in a sport at the high school level, especially soccer, basketball and football. Kids get up at 6am for conditioning alone year round.

This comment is in fact a profound display of ignorance about the commitment required for high-level instrumental music. Serious music students practice at least 2-3 hours/day, year-round.

Reading comprehension, please. I actually said no disrespect to kids involved in other ECs and said nothing about the commitment required for music. But, since you mention it, I’m well aware.

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Anonymous wrote:Every fall on these boards I watch people comment how VT is a safety school for their kid and by December there is wailing and gnashing of teeth wondering how VT could have rejected their kid with the 5.9 GPA, or whatever. It's an annual holiday tradition.

My DS, from FCPS, was rejected from VT but accepted to W&M and UVA. I don't think DS would have gone to VT if he had gotten in, but it was still a head scratcher.

Perhaps yield protection?

VT says right on their website that they do not yield protect.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."
https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html

Have you ever seen a school say that they do?

I've actually never seen a school be completely upfront about it like VT and say they do NOT.

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Anonymous wrote:Vt now has more than 1/2 its class from first gen students. That disadvantages many applicants with college educated parents, disproportionately those from Northern VA. The % first gen at WM and UVA is much lower.

Please provide your citation.

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Furman

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Probably BC, BU and Tufts.

All that methodology designed to boost public schools ended up pushing them to lower rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably BC, BU and Tufts.

All that methodology designed to boost public schools ended up pushing them to lower rankings.

and Northeastern.

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Wake Forest is impossible!! Rankings slippage obviously had a reverse impact - or folks don't care.

It's always been extremely selective but it's a new level now.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably BC, BU and Tufts.

All that methodology designed to boost public schools ended up pushing them to lower rankings.

Right answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts is one.
WF?
Tulane.

Pretty much every flagship state school.

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts is one.
WF?
Tulane.

Tulane, Tufts, Chicago are all in the "ED or bust" category. Either much easier or much harder to get into than rankings indicate, depending how you apply.

Wild differences between these. I literally don’t know anyone that has been rejected from Tulane. Uchicago uber hard and WF middle of the road.

Agree Chicago is the most difficult admit.

But it is also school dependent. Horace Mann sends a large drove to Chicago each year. At these feeders, an average student can get in ED.
At non-feeder high schools, yes it can be "uber hard".

In fairness, Horace Mann is one of the most rigorous HS in the country (I don't have a child there), widely known for grade deflation. Even an average student there is still a top student.

School matters. Stuy is another Chicago feeder, large droves I believe. Haven’t checked out their matriculation for a while things might have changed.

Stuy is a feeder pretty much everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:UT is basically impossible to get in from out of state in the most competitive majors unless you have MIT like stats.

Lol no it’s not but yes it is more difficult out of state relatively easy in state

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Anonymous wrote:Some Parents who attended UGA 30 years ago are surprised at how difficult it is for their kids to get in now. Some of these kids are going to Auburn, USC and Alabama. It’s tough because not everyone can afford to pay OOS tuition. Hopefully UGA doesn’t run into the same issue as UVA where many in-state families are feeling like they’re being shut out.

The issue is state schools are now much more desirable. This means that average kids really don’t have a chance. In state kids still go there but they are much stronger students than they were years ago. Your kid now has to have much stronger stats than you did. And by this I don’t just mean a higher GPA. You have to have a high GPA and be near the top of your class.

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All the top LACs since they are so small and there aren't that many of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Depending on the major...Cal Poly SLO, San Diego State, San Jose State, UCs Irvine, Santa Barbara, and Davis can be tough.

Zip code and school can be even more difficult. Schools with a 40% acceptance can have an impossible acceptance rate within particular areas.

The top VA state schools are really hard admits from Nova.