Rising senior parents - don't do ED

Texanviadelco
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This post should have been titled, “Don’t ED a School You Don’t Want to Go To.”


Bingo.

Quarter system is fun actually.
Chicago is better than any east coast city.
If your kid is happy, don’t rain on his parade.


Quarter system sucks for jobs/internships


At UChicago the intenship programs are phenomenal, especially with the Metcalf Internships that pay students even if they take a no-pay internship.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My top-stats kid got "why not Ivy" after ED'ing to a WASP school. He's thrilled to go, saw plenty of top kids shut out in the end. It also happened to be an ideal fit for him. Ivy credential would be nice, but we didn't think he'd be happiest there. There's always grad school.


The HUGE difference is that WASP (which are essentially ivy level) is your DC's dream school. Chicago is not OP's dream school, he gamed.




I think Chicago is WASP- and lower-Ivy level. Aren't the distinctions between these schools pretty small ultimately?


No. Dream vs non-dream is the key difference. Ivy level or not, it doesn't matter.


The notion of dream school is a trap. Most kids don’t have a dream school, but ED is still an important tool for acceptance. I have one who didn’t use it and one who did, and not using it was among costly mistake.


Your dc should go to where they can be happy and a good fit, not where ranking is high.
Anonymous
OP, you're generalizing from your particular story. There are just as many posters who say "Don't ED too high-you are wasting your one shot!"

Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.

The advice to rising seniors needs to be: Only ED if you will be genuinely happy that you got in.

It's not that complicated.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My top-stats kid got "why not Ivy" after ED'ing to a WASP school. He's thrilled to go, saw plenty of top kids shut out in the end. It also happened to be an ideal fit for him. Ivy credential would be nice, but we didn't think he'd be happiest there. There's always grad school.


The HUGE difference is that WASP (which are essentially ivy level) is your DC's dream school. Chicago is not OP's dream school, he gamed.



I think Chicago is WASP- and lower-Ivy level. Aren't the distinctions between these schools pretty small ultimately?


Chicago is way better - and more rigorous- than WASP/ lower ivies…However , if your kid wants an easy path - or not sure of his/her talent - the latter option is advisable…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My top-stats kid got "why not Ivy" after ED'ing to a WASP school. He's thrilled to go, saw plenty of top kids shut out in the end. It also happened to be an ideal fit for him. Ivy credential would be nice, but we didn't think he'd be happiest there. There's always grad school.


The HUGE difference is that WASP (which are essentially ivy level) is your DC's dream school. Chicago is not OP's dream school, he gamed.



I think Chicago is WASP- and lower-Ivy level. Aren't the distinctions between these schools pretty small ultimately?


Chicago is way better - and more rigorous- than WASP/ lower ivies…However , if your kid wants an easy path - or not sure of his/her talent - the latter option is advisable…



Dumb post, as usual. Keep it up.
Anonymous
Sometimes I wonder if some of the top kids my my kid’s class could have or should have braved the RD pool and gotten into a school more highly ranked than their ED school, but it’s not my journey, not my kid and not my business.
Texanviadelco
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is not ED per se.

The problem is he low-balled himself in ED. He shoulda ED at the Columbia/Penn/Brown level.



Chicago far superior to Brown


Chicago has ED2 because people don’t choose it. It’s in a crappy area. It’s not a fun place. It’s a back up to the Ivies—except for those who are afraid they won’t get in anywhere RD —so they ED at Uchi for a sure thing. U Chicago is test optional and they have to actively recruit by sending mailers constantly—so much wasted paper from all of their soliciting solely to raise the number of applicants to skew their numbers. The Ivies don’t have to send out mailers. It’s popular at one Big3 that’s like a feeder to it, but not at most other privates.


UChicago “it’s a back-up to the Ivies” has student outcomes that rival all the Ivies including 99% return rate for first year students; 91% grad rate in 4 years and 96% grad rate in six years. And per US News a top 3 law school, top 4 grad business school, shared #1 Economics department and EVERY other academic department in the top 5 to 10. UChicago equals or exceeds every Ivy by any measurable standard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest. If you are going to ED, Chicago is the only one that provides a boost among


T20 schools and WASP. No much difference for other T20/WASP between RD/ED.

Chicago RD is impossible to get in. We have kids in the top one third or even top half got in Chicago in the ED round. Its RD round requires HYP caliber.

More than 70% Chicago students are admitted in the ED round. Less than 30% admitted in the RD round.



Several other T20 schools also have an ED boost: Brown, Cornell, Penn, WashU, Vanderbilt. In fact, at all T20 schools that have ED, with the possible exception of Dartmouth (which is small and may focus ED on athletes and institutional priority kids), there's a pretty good boost for ED candidates over RD candidates.
Anonymous
I do think many college consultants pushed families and kids ED at Chicago. These consultants only cares so they could show admission results, didn’t consider fit and potential of the applicants.

Chicago ED acceptance rate is close to 40%. Easily a school that consultants love.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest. If you are going to ED, Chicago is the only one that provides a boost among


T20 schools and WASP. No much difference for other T20/WASP between RD/ED.

Chicago RD is impossible to get in. We have kids in the top one third or even top half got in Chicago in the ED round. Its RD round requires HYP caliber.

More than 70% Chicago students are admitted in the ED round. Less than 30% admitted in the RD round.



Several other T20 schools also have an ED boost: Brown, Cornell, Penn, WashU, Vanderbilt. In fact, at all T20 schools that have ED, with the possible exception of Dartmouth (which is small and may focus ED on athletes and institutional priority kids), there's a pretty good boost for ED candidates over RD candidates.


Brown and Penn do not have a boost, Cornell did until 2024 cycle where they started taking less in ED. The slightly higher admit rate is due to the pool applying, if you back all the hooks out it’s not an advantage. They say as much on their websites and from AO’s directly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do you know for which colleges WD is advantageous?


Ask your CCO
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Hard disagree. Not doing early decision cost my new graduate who ended up getting waitlisted. Given her stats she would have been an easy admit if applying early.


This happens a lot.

Parents don't want to admit this.


💯
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Don’t do ED if you don’t have a first choice school (and certainly don’t do ED to a school that’s not your first choice) a/k/a don’t play games


Some students should play that game, depending on the competition in their cohort.


Exactly. This is why there can’t be a one-size-fits-all answer.

It depends on your high school.
It depends on where you are want to ED and if it is in fact, your top choice.
It depends on your cohort from your high school and who else is applying/will apply to that school.
It depends on the major.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My top-stats kid got "why not Ivy" after ED'ing to a WASP school. He's thrilled to go, saw plenty of top kids shut out in the end. It also happened to be an ideal fit for him. Ivy credential would be nice, but we didn't think he'd be happiest there. There's always grad school.


The HUGE difference is that WASP (which are essentially ivy level) is your DC's dream school. Chicago is not OP's dream school, he gamed.


Ha. Omg. You are so passive aggressive abs insecure.

I think Chicago is WASP- and lower-Ivy level. Aren't the distinctions between these schools pretty small ultimately?


Chicago is way better - and more rigorous- than WASP/ lower ivies…However , if your kid wants an easy path - or not sure of his/her talent - the latter option is advisable…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest. If you are going to ED, Chicago is the only one that provides a boost among


T20 schools and WASP. No much difference for other T20/WASP between RD/ED.

Chicago RD is impossible to get in. We have kids in the top one third or even top half got in Chicago in the ED round. Its RD round requires HYP caliber.

More than 70% Chicago students are admitted in the ED round. Less than 30% admitted in the RD round.



Several other T20 schools also have an ED boost: Brown, Cornell, Penn, WashU, Vanderbilt. In fact, at all T20 schools that have ED, with the possible exception of Dartmouth (which is small and may focus ED on athletes and institutional priority kids), there's a pretty good boost for ED candidates over RD candidates.


Brown and Penn do not have a boost, Cornell did until 2024 cycle where they started taking less in ED. The slightly higher admit rate is due to the pool applying, if you back all the hooks out it’s not an advantage. They say as much on their websites and from AO’s directly.


Penn is the second largest ivy. Take 50% students from the ED pool. To say Penn doesn’t have an ED boost is incorrect.

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