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Oh please get a life you "obama hater". |
| If it makes you feel any better it's been raining like crazy up here for 3-4 days. So he's got plenty of time to catch up on work. |
Yep, we can cut taxes. That way we'll have a bangup economy just like between 2001 and 2008. Right now, we've got Obama moving us more in the direction of social democracy, and the GOP peddling what they've been peddling for the past 30 years in terms of economic theory. What worked in 1982 with 70% tax rates and a much lower debt-GDP ratio may not work today. |
Harry Truman has a sign in his office, "The buck stops here." The buck stops with Obama no matter how you try to justify his absymal failure of keeping his campaign promises; his leadership is shockingly lacking because he has had a majority in both houses and he can't even keep his own party in check. Open your eyes, the emperor has no clothes. |
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| DOn't worry it will be George Bush's fault forever with these Obama supporters. HE will never own anything. |
This. This is the argument I was making before, and I interjected that if he and/or wasn't spending all of our tax money funding the necessities for his vacations and the time spent enjoying them, that perhaps he'd have more time to figure out a way to actually come through on his promises.. This didn't get very good responses though.. I've never really considered myself to be a republican, I did not vote for Bush but I did have hopes for Obama until he actually started (not doing anything). He is a great talker.. He received a lot of support because of his wonderfully delivered and written speeches, but is really failing with his follow through. |
Yep, Bush precipitated the worst recession in nearly a century, and entangled us in two of the longest and most expensive wars in our nation's history, but Obama's been in office for two years, so, y'know, he should've fixed everything and stuff. You two are like a kid that shits the bed, then gets angry at their mom because the sheets still smell a bit poopy. What ever happened to the "accountability party"? No shame whatsoever. |
We will be turned around in two years. And I don't think you are keeping score correctly. He said we would get out of Iraq. We are now down to non-combat forces. He said he would do everything in his power to prevent a meltdown of our economy, and no one wants to admit it but we were on the brink of a total meltdown. That meltdown was avoided. He got the auto industry back on track. He is prosecuting the war in Afghanistan as promised. He delivered health care reform. You may not like health care reform, but he delivered what he said he would. This was considered an impossible goal, it is shocking that he got this one across the goal line. I think the economy isn't getting better right now, but I do not see it getting worse. Unemployment is not growing, credit is not contracting. We still have a real estate issue, but no one can make our homes worth more than they are worth, so I don't see any president changing that. Home prices are a pure and simple matter of economics in action. I find it particularly distressing that suddenly Republicans who didn't care enough about Afghanistan to send the proper troops are now suddenly concerned that it is going in the wrong direction. Every lefty out there said that we never should have been in Iraq. We had 130,000 troops there, and every soldier in Iraq was one less soldier in Afghanistan. I would like it to be better, but I have to say this sudden conservative dissatisfaction with the war effort is truly disingenuous. Where were your voices when the last administration was not listening to the screams of the generals there, complaining about not enough force? |
You seem to be assuming these folks are arguing in good faith. Clearly that's not the case. They elected the worst president in American history...twice. And now they're desperate to excuse themselves. That's why Obama has to be a hyper-intelligent Islamo-fascist super-villain, a flashy ghetto-pimp, an ignorant babe-in-the-woods, and every other trope they can think of. Just having Obama be Carter II isn't nearly enough. Gotta shoot the moon when you're trying to wash the taste of that epic failure from Crawford out of your mouth. |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/24/AR2010082406753.html
I don't see how you can say the economy is not getting worse. Every indicator says that it is. Sales of Existing homes fell 27% in July, the steepest one month drop since 1968. And this is with interest the lowest they have been in at least 10 years. People have no confidence in the economy. |
| I meant interest rates. |
This is a bit like someone looking at their portfolio in 2002 and saying, "How can there be a recovery?? My pets.com stock is still in the crapper!" If you're looking for the recovery in the rate of existing home sales, you're going to be sorely disappointed. Whatever form the recovery takes, the housing sector ain't it. Bush (with TARP), and Obama (with the stimulus funds that were gutted by the GOP and right-wing Democrats) seem to have stabilized the economy, but we're definitely looking at a long period of slow-growth. Too bad no one listened to Krugman. |
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I'd be willing to accept that Obama can't blame Bush if the GOP hadn't spent all of late 2008 blaming Carter and CIRA for the housing crisis.
Reagan ran against Carter's ghost in 1984, Obama will run against Bush's ghost in 2012. San Francisco liberals will be replaced by Tea Partiers and that will scare up Obama's base the same way San Francisco liberals scared up Reagan's base. At least the 2012 RNC won't be in Phoenix, which would've provided comedy gold the way the 1984 DNC in San Francisco provided such. |