Division 3 Sports, Unrecruited Athlete

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, don't go in with high expectations. DS approached the college coach after admissions and was basically stiff armed. They do tend to bring in all they need through the recruitment process, even if none of them are getting $$ or a thumb on the scale.


Boys may be different in terms of timing but my female rising college freshman was offered her spot (D3) late in her HS junior year and committed in July, then was accepted (high academic school) ED. It’s pretty late to be having a first conversation with the coach. Agree that Coach Renee is great and her steps worked for us but my kid started the process as a sophomore. And had lots and lots of video to share with the coach— do you have film?


How could it be late to having a discussion? Plenty of schools haven't even issued admission decisions yet. Why would an athlete be having discussions with a coach of a school he isn't in yet?


All your comments here indicate you are not familiar with college recruitment.


Seriously this.

Look, I happen to believe that there is a D3 spot for most decent athletes who want to play. If you go in with the right expectations. I def know kids who were not that great, but have spots in college at low level competitive D3 schools. But, hey, they are still playing in college.

But, while some schools recruit late (through end of senior year) most are earlier. These athletes have been talking with coaches, going to clinics, and sending film for a couple years. It's the rare situation where you can expect to swan in the fall of the first year of college (or summer before) and expect to get a spot.


I guess I'm special because I know two kids that did exactly that. One for Tennis at Denison and one for Swimming at Kenyon. I'll have to reach out and let their dads know what unicorns they are.


Come on. This does happen, but not as frequently as some folks believe. ESPN runs segments of folks who were successful. They don't even have segments of folks who were not.

I know a kid who walked onto a T10 soccer team. Decided spring after ED that they wanted to try, so they went all out training over the next three months and made it. They happened to quit the next year, but they made it.

And another kid who did somewhat similarly on a PAC-12 football team. Coach told him to be in touch in the fall and discuss walk on for following season. So kid did, but coincidentally, the starter in that position was just injured and out for the remainder of the season. Coach replied, "get the physical pronto" and rostered for the remainder of the season.

But those are exceptions (the coach wouldn't have said for another position where he was deep with 2-3 players), not rules, even for a D3.

Yeah, sh*t happens, but don't bank on it.


No one was 'banking' on it. They were simply refuting the absurd claim that it walking on to a DIII program doesn't happen. It does, all the time.

I graduated HS in '92, so going back a bit, but two of my NOVA HS friends walked on at big programs. JMU's football program and UMD's football program. The later was a kicker and the former was a stellar linebacker.


By referencing (1) HS '92 and (2) football explains a lot here. Travel teams were really only cranking up in the early '90s and football, as discussed earlier, is an outlier here as it does not have a club/travel component.

No one said walking on to DIII teams does not happen, but probably not with the ease and frequency as folks think - especially the case when it is a competitive academic institution.

Admitted folks should try it - they may be successful, but it might not be a back door route to bypassing recruiting.
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Most D3 recruits I'm aware of (and I have two D3 players) came from travel teams and not HS coaches - who were basically useless in the recruiting process.
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Anonymous wrote:Most D3 recruits I'm aware of (and I have two D3 players) came from travel teams and not HS coaches - who were basically useless in the recruiting process.


FWIW, we have one DD who played travel and decided not to pursue sport in college due to prospective major, but continued with the club as it was one of their ECs. The club spent years talking about all the places the players could get recruited. Then start of junior year, the director who oversaw HS players announced that none of the girls on DD's team would probably get D1 offers as they were too small in stature. Seemed pretty late in the game to announce this to the players. The team was also divided into 2/3rds who were full pay and 1/3rd who needed money, so this was not great news for them.

Three ended up with D1 offers early on, but not to schools that the full pay parents wanted for their kids. Two more did eke out D1 offers, though only one gets play time. Never really liked the girl with play time as she was fairly mean to DD - we had moved so DD wasn't a lifer on the team and there was a bit of a divide - but a real hustler and can imagine a coach liking that.

A couple others got D3 offers later from schools acceptable to their parents.

In the end, most of the parents felt the club wasn't really that helpful for placement. None of them thought that their girls would've ended up playing in college through their HS teams, but more like the club bragged a lot about how they hook up players and then they were largely awol in terms of personnel for these players.
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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, don't go in with high expectations. DS approached the college coach after admissions and was basically stiff armed. They do tend to bring in all they need through the recruitment process, even if none of them are getting $$ or a thumb on the scale.


Boys may be different in terms of timing but my female rising college freshman was offered her spot (D3) late in her HS junior year and committed in July, then was accepted (high academic school) ED. It’s pretty late to be having a first conversation with the coach. Agree that Coach Renee is great and her steps worked for us but my kid started the process as a sophomore. And had lots and lots of video to share with the coach— do you have film?


How could it be late to having a discussion? Plenty of schools haven't even issued admission decisions yet. Why would an athlete be having discussions with a coach of a school he isn't in yet?


All your comments here indicate you are not familiar with college recruitment.


Seriously this.

Look, I happen to believe that there is a D3 spot for most decent athletes who want to play. If you go in with the right expectations. I def know kids who were not that great, but have spots in college at low level competitive D3 schools. But, hey, they are still playing in college.

But, while some schools recruit late (through end of senior year) most are earlier. These athletes have been talking with coaches, going to clinics, and sending film for a couple years. It's the rare situation where you can expect to swan in the fall of the first year of college (or summer before) and expect to get a spot.


I guess I'm special because I know two kids that did exactly that. One for Tennis at Denison and one for Swimming at Kenyon. I'll have to reach out and let their dads know what unicorns they are.


Come on. This does happen, but not as frequently as some folks believe. ESPN runs segments of folks who were successful. They don't even have segments of folks who were not.

I know a kid who walked onto a T10 soccer team. Decided spring after ED that they wanted to try, so they went all out training over the next three months and made it. They happened to quit the next year, but they made it.

And another kid who did somewhat similarly on a PAC-12 football team. Coach told him to be in touch in the fall and discuss walk on for following season. So kid did, but coincidentally, the starter in that position was just injured and out for the remainder of the season. Coach replied, "get the physical pronto" and rostered for the remainder of the season.

But those are exceptions (the coach wouldn't have said for another position where he was deep with 2-3 players), not rules, even for a D3.

Yeah, sh*t happens, but don't bank on it.


No one was 'banking' on it. They were simply refuting the absurd claim that it walking on to a DIII program doesn't happen. It does, all the time.

I graduated HS in '92, so going back a bit, but two of my NOVA HS friends walked on at big programs. JMU's football program and UMD's football program. The later was a kicker and the former was a stellar linebacker.



Going back “a bit” 😂 you’re 50 and your experience is irrelevant.
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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, don't go in with high expectations. DS approached the college coach after admissions and was basically stiff armed. They do tend to bring in all they need through the recruitment process, even if none of them are getting $$ or a thumb on the scale.


Boys may be different in terms of timing but my female rising college freshman was offered her spot (D3) late in her HS junior year and committed in July, then was accepted (high academic school) ED. It’s pretty late to be having a first conversation with the coach. Agree that Coach Renee is great and her steps worked for us but my kid started the process as a sophomore. And had lots and lots of video to share with the coach— do you have film?


How could it be late to having a discussion? Plenty of schools haven't even issued admission decisions yet. Why would an athlete be having discussions with a coach of a school he isn't in yet?


All your comments here indicate you are not familiar with college recruitment.


Seriously this.

Look, I happen to believe that there is a D3 spot for most decent athletes who want to play. If you go in with the right expectations. I def know kids who were not that great, but have spots in college at low level competitive D3 schools. But, hey, they are still playing in college.

But, while some schools recruit late (through end of senior year) most are earlier. These athletes have been talking with coaches, going to clinics, and sending film for a couple years. It's the rare situation where you can expect to swan in the fall of the first year of college (or summer before) and expect to get a spot.


I guess I'm special because I know two kids that did exactly that. One for Tennis at Denison and one for Swimming at Kenyon. I'll have to reach out and let their dads know what unicorns they are.


Come on. This does happen, but not as frequently as some folks believe. ESPN runs segments of folks who were successful. They don't even have segments of folks who were not.

I know a kid who walked onto a T10 soccer team. Decided spring after ED that they wanted to try, so they went all out training over the next three months and made it. They happened to quit the next year, but they made it.

And another kid who did somewhat similarly on a PAC-12 football team. Coach told him to be in touch in the fall and discuss walk on for following season. So kid did, but coincidentally, the starter in that position was just injured and out for the remainder of the season. Coach replied, "get the physical pronto" and rostered for the remainder of the season.

But those are exceptions (the coach wouldn't have said for another position where he was deep with 2-3 players), not rules, even for a D3.

Yeah, sh*t happens, but don't bank on it.


No one was 'banking' on it. They were simply refuting the absurd claim that it walking on to a DIII program doesn't happen. It does, all the time.

I graduated HS in '92, so going back a bit, but two of my NOVA HS friends walked on at big programs. JMU's football program and UMD's football program. The later was a kicker and the former was a stellar linebacker.



Going back “a bit” 😂 you’re 50 and your experience is irrelevant.


Ahhh, 50 is pretty average, if not on the young side, in DC to be a parent to an 18 year old.

Let me guess, you're from the South where they breed at 16?
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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, don't go in with high expectations. DS approached the college coach after admissions and was basically stiff armed. They do tend to bring in all they need through the recruitment process, even if none of them are getting $$ or a thumb on the scale.


Boys may be different in terms of timing but my female rising college freshman was offered her spot (D3) late in her HS junior year and committed in July, then was accepted (high academic school) ED. It’s pretty late to be having a first conversation with the coach. Agree that Coach Renee is great and her steps worked for us but my kid started the process as a sophomore. And had lots and lots of video to share with the coach— do you have film?


How could it be late to having a discussion? Plenty of schools haven't even issued admission decisions yet. Why would an athlete be having discussions with a coach of a school he isn't in yet?


All your comments here indicate you are not familiar with college recruitment.


Seriously this.

Look, I happen to believe that there is a D3 spot for most decent athletes who want to play. If you go in with the right expectations. I def know kids who were not that great, but have spots in college at low level competitive D3 schools. But, hey, they are still playing in college.

But, while some schools recruit late (through end of senior year) most are earlier. These athletes have been talking with coaches, going to clinics, and sending film for a couple years. It's the rare situation where you can expect to swan in the fall of the first year of college (or summer before) and expect to get a spot.


I guess I'm special because I know two kids that did exactly that. One for Tennis at Denison and one for Swimming at Kenyon. I'll have to reach out and let their dads know what unicorns they are.


Come on. This does happen, but not as frequently as some folks believe. ESPN runs segments of folks who were successful. They don't even have segments of folks who were not.

I know a kid who walked onto a T10 soccer team. Decided spring after ED that they wanted to try, so they went all out training over the next three months and made it. They happened to quit the next year, but they made it.

And another kid who did somewhat similarly on a PAC-12 football team. Coach told him to be in touch in the fall and discuss walk on for following season. So kid did, but coincidentally, the starter in that position was just injured and out for the remainder of the season. Coach replied, "get the physical pronto" and rostered for the remainder of the season.

But those are exceptions (the coach wouldn't have said for another position where he was deep with 2-3 players), not rules, even for a D3.

Yeah, sh*t happens, but don't bank on it.


No one was 'banking' on it. They were simply refuting the absurd claim that it walking on to a DIII program doesn't happen. It does, all the time.

I graduated HS in '92, so going back a bit, but two of my NOVA HS friends walked on at big programs. JMU's football program and UMD's football program. The later was a kicker and the former was a stellar linebacker.



Going back “a bit” 😂 you’re 50 and your experience is irrelevant.


Ahhh, 50 is pretty average, if not on the young side, in DC to be a parent to an 18 year old.

Let me guess, you're from the South where they breed at 16?




Hardly. My point is your 1992 experience is outdated and not relevant to today.
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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, don't go in with high expectations. DS approached the college coach after admissions and was basically stiff armed. They do tend to bring in all they need through the recruitment process, even if none of them are getting $$ or a thumb on the scale.


Boys may be different in terms of timing but my female rising college freshman was offered her spot (D3) late in her HS junior year and committed in July, then was accepted (high academic school) ED. It’s pretty late to be having a first conversation with the coach. Agree that Coach Renee is great and her steps worked for us but my kid started the process as a sophomore. And had lots and lots of video to share with the coach— do you have film?


How could it be late to having a discussion? Plenty of schools haven't even issued admission decisions yet. Why would an athlete be having discussions with a coach of a school he isn't in yet?


All your comments here indicate you are not familiar with college recruitment.


Seriously this.

Look, I happen to believe that there is a D3 spot for most decent athletes who want to play. If you go in with the right expectations. I def know kids who were not that great, but have spots in college at low level competitive D3 schools. But, hey, they are still playing in college.

But, while some schools recruit late (through end of senior year) most are earlier. These athletes have been talking with coaches, going to clinics, and sending film for a couple years. It's the rare situation where you can expect to swan in the fall of the first year of college (or summer before) and expect to get a spot.


I guess I'm special because I know two kids that did exactly that. One for Tennis at Denison and one for Swimming at Kenyon. I'll have to reach out and let their dads know what unicorns they are.


Come on. This does happen, but not as frequently as some folks believe. ESPN runs segments of folks who were successful. They don't even have segments of folks who were not.

I know a kid who walked onto a T10 soccer team. Decided spring after ED that they wanted to try, so they went all out training over the next three months and made it. They happened to quit the next year, but they made it.

And another kid who did somewhat similarly on a PAC-12 football team. Coach told him to be in touch in the fall and discuss walk on for following season. So kid did, but coincidentally, the starter in that position was just injured and out for the remainder of the season. Coach replied, "get the physical pronto" and rostered for the remainder of the season.

But those are exceptions (the coach wouldn't have said for another position where he was deep with 2-3 players), not rules, even for a D3.

Yeah, sh*t happens, but don't bank on it.


No one was 'banking' on it. They were simply refuting the absurd claim that it walking on to a DIII program doesn't happen. It does, all the time.

I graduated HS in '92, so going back a bit, but two of my NOVA HS friends walked on at big programs. JMU's football program and UMD's football program. The later was a kicker and the former was a stellar linebacker.



Going back “a bit” 😂 you’re 50 and your experience is irrelevant.


Ahhh, 50 is pretty average, if not on the young side, in DC to be a parent to an 18 year old.

Let me guess, you're from the South where they breed at 16?




Hardly. My point is your 1992 experience is outdated and not relevant to today.


And yet, this thread is full of people proving you wrong.

But hey, I won't stop you from flailing.
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As a mom of four boys in elementary and middle school, I haven't had to think about the college recruitment process. Over the last few months, I've had numerous calls from parents looking for someone to build a sports portfolio website for their student-athletes. I did my research, and WOW! Just the thought of it seems stressful. Depending on the sport, there are a ton of showcase platforms: Hudl, Sports Recruit, etc. The parents I worked with said having a website was easier to manage and control. The kid sends the website to potential coaches and tells them they can get on to look at any new highlights, STATS, and direct contact info. They also wanted to add community service as a way to stand out. Another kid had an endorsement deal (with the new NIL policy), so they wanted a website he could use to upload his prices and blog content. I feel like this could become the new norm for sports and college admissions in general.
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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, don't go in with high expectations. DS approached the college coach after admissions and was basically stiff armed. They do tend to bring in all they need through the recruitment process, even if none of them are getting $$ or a thumb on the scale.


Boys may be different in terms of timing but my female rising college freshman was offered her spot (D3) late in her HS junior year and committed in July, then was accepted (high academic school) ED. It’s pretty late to be having a first conversation with the coach. Agree that Coach Renee is great and her steps worked for us but my kid started the process as a sophomore. And had lots and lots of video to share with the coach— do you have film?


How could it be late to having a discussion? Plenty of schools haven't even issued admission decisions yet. Why would an athlete be having discussions with a coach of a school he isn't in yet?


All your comments here indicate you are not familiar with college recruitment.


Seriously this.

Look, I happen to believe that there is a D3 spot for most decent athletes who want to play. If you go in with the right expectations. I def know kids who were not that great, but have spots in college at low level competitive D3 schools. But, hey, they are still playing in college.

But, while some schools recruit late (through end of senior year) most are earlier. These athletes have been talking with coaches, going to clinics, and sending film for a couple years. It's the rare situation where you can expect to swan in the fall of the first year of college (or summer before) and expect to get a spot.


I guess I'm special because I know two kids that did exactly that. One for Tennis at Denison and one for Swimming at Kenyon. I'll have to reach out and let their dads know what unicorns they are.


Come on. This does happen, but not as frequently as some folks believe. ESPN runs segments of folks who were successful. They don't even have segments of folks who were not.

I know a kid who walked onto a T10 soccer team. Decided spring after ED that they wanted to try, so they went all out training over the next three months and made it. They happened to quit the next year, but they made it.

And another kid who did somewhat similarly on a PAC-12 football team. Coach told him to be in touch in the fall and discuss walk on for following season. So kid did, but coincidentally, the starter in that position was just injured and out for the remainder of the season. Coach replied, "get the physical pronto" and rostered for the remainder of the season.

But those are exceptions (the coach wouldn't have said for another position where he was deep with 2-3 players), not rules, even for a D3.

Yeah, sh*t happens, but don't bank on it.


No one was 'banking' on it. They were simply refuting the absurd claim that it walking on to a DIII program doesn't happen. It does, all the time.

I graduated HS in '92, so going back a bit, but two of my NOVA HS friends walked on at big programs. JMU's football program and UMD's football program. The later was a kicker and the former was a stellar linebacker.



Going back “a bit” 😂 you’re 50 and your experience is irrelevant.


Ahhh, 50 is pretty average, if not on the young side, in DC to be a parent to an 18 year old.

Let me guess, you're from the South where they breed at 16?




Hardly. My point is your 1992 experience is outdated and not relevant to today.


And yet, this thread is full of people proving you wrong.

But hey, I won't stop you from flailing.


LOL, no. And again, football is an outlier.
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In D3 it really depends on how competitive the program is. Top programs have pretty much filled out their rosters for the fall before the end of spring term.
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Anonymous wrote:In D3 it really depends on how competitive the program is. Top programs have pretty much filled out their rosters for the fall before the end of spring term.


It really comes down to this…Emory baseball will be very different than Williams baseball because there are very few high academic D3s located in the southeast…and nobody wants to play college baseball in the New England winters if they can avoid it.

Their basketball and other teams (no football, so can’t reference) will likely be quite different.
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