AP Calculus BC at TJ

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any TJ kid taking Cal AB doesn't belong at TJ.


Why? Math is not the only STEM subject.

DP.
If kids were avoiding Calc BC because they were superstars at Bio or some other STEM field and wanted more time to focus on that, I would agree with you. You seem to be assuming that for every 10 kids taking Calc AB, 9 of the 10 are great in some other STEM area, and only 1 out of the 10 is all around pretty mediocre and simply can't hack it in the harder class. I would assume that 9 out of 10 kids are mediocre and can't hack it, while maybe only 1 is a star in some other STEM area.

Kids taking Calc AB who would be eminently capable of taking BC, but don't because other paths better fit their goals are fine. Kids who can't hack Calc BC, but are stars in some other STEM arena are fine. Kids who are neither of those categories (i.e. the majority of kids at TJ taking Calc AB) don't belong at TJ.


PP and the original comment said ANY kid taking doesn't belong at TJ. Your own argument refutes that. And further not that they can't "hack" BC just want to defer - my kid took AB soph year, BC junior and Multi-Var senior year. Graduated from a T10 with a math minor, biology major.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any TJ kid taking Cal AB doesn't belong at TJ.


Why? Math is not the only STEM subject.

DP.
If kids were avoiding Calc BC because they were superstars at Bio or some other STEM field and wanted more time to focus on that, I would agree with you. You seem to be assuming that for every 10 kids taking Calc AB, 9 of the 10 are great in some other STEM area, and only 1 out of the 10 is all around pretty mediocre and simply can't hack it in the harder class. I would assume that 9 out of 10 kids are mediocre and can't hack it, while maybe only 1 is a star in some other STEM area.

Kids taking Calc AB who would be eminently capable of taking BC, but don't because other paths better fit their goals are fine. Kids who can't hack Calc BC, but are stars in some other STEM arena are fine. Kids who are neither of those categories (i.e. the majority of kids at TJ taking Calc AB) don't belong at TJ.


PP and the original comment said ANY kid taking doesn't belong at TJ. Your own argument refutes that. And further not that they can't "hack" BC just want to defer - my kid took AB soph year, BC junior and Multi-Var senior year. Graduated from a T10 with a math minor, biology major.


PP. I didn't post the original comment and clearly don't agree with it. The "DP" tag should have indicated that I wasn't the quoted PP.
Anonymous
TJ is so much harder than base HS. It's not comparable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes! ( U Cal Davis)

He keeps saying - its like a weight had been lifted off his shoulders.

Course load is reasonable and works for him.

Thanks to TJ we were able to avoid the DCUM trap of getting into Cornell etc


I call bull spit
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A kid who can't manage to get a good grade in Calc BC, by 12th grade, has no business taking a spot at TJ.

Kid didn't earn the spot. Equity admissions process offered it. And equity idiots are convincing the kid to stay there at the bottom of the class with mostly Cs and occasional B-. But only the misfit kid and their family know the misery of not being able to keep up with TJ rigor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any TJ kid taking Cal AB doesn't belong at TJ.


Why? Math is not the only STEM subject.


Math is the basic foundation for STE of STEM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do they take Calc BC in 11th grade in order for it to show up on the college application? I don't think getting an A in senior year mattered?


Many take it the 2nd year. Or, maybe TJ students did this before the admissions standards were lowered.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do they take Calc BC in 11th grade in order for it to show up on the college application? I don't think getting an A in senior year mattered?


Many take it the 2nd year. Or, maybe TJ students did this before the admissions standards were lowered.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A kid who can't manage to get a good grade in Calc BC, by 12th grade, has no business taking a spot at TJ.

Kid didn't earn the spot. Equity admissions process offered it. And equity idiots are convincing the kid to stay there at the bottom of the class with mostly Cs and occasional B-. But only the misfit kid and their family know the misery of not being able to keep up with TJ rigor.


FYI - even before the changes, a good 40-50% of the kids were struggling on the grades. This is not a new phenomenon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do they take Calc BC in 11th grade in order for it to show up on the college application? I don't think getting an A in senior year mattered?


Many take it the 2nd year. Or, maybe TJ students did this before the admissions standards were lowered.


I thought AP Calculus AB/BC needs Algebra 1/2/Geometry and Precalculus, that's 4 years of math starting at 7th. How could anyone get AP Calc at 10th grade?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do they take Calc BC in 11th grade in order for it to show up on the college application? I don't think getting an A in senior year mattered?


Many take it the 2nd year. Or, maybe TJ students did this before the admissions standards were lowered.


I thought AP Calculus AB/BC needs Algebra 1/2/Geometry and Precalculus, that's 4 years of math starting at 7th. How could anyone get AP Calc at 10th grade?

One way is to test out of a class, or take a version of it during the summer. This seems to be common with geometry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do they take Calc BC in 11th grade in order for it to show up on the college application? I don't think getting an A in senior year mattered?


Many take it the 2nd year. Or, maybe TJ students did this before the admissions standards were lowered.


I thought AP Calculus AB/BC needs Algebra 1/2/Geometry and Precalculus, that's 4 years of math starting at 7th. How could anyone get AP Calc at 10th grade?


Exactly.

So to take Calculus as a Sophomore ( pls stop saying its 2nd year!!) You woul need to have completed Algebra 2 Homs in Middle School. Taken M4 and M5 as a freshman or over summer.

Not many folks do this. PP is probably just extrapolating off his own kid ( good for him, hopefully) or not well informed.

Cal A/B or B/C in Jr year is the most common sequence
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do they take Calc BC in 11th grade in order for it to show up on the college application? I don't think getting an A in senior year mattered?


Many take it the 2nd year. Or, maybe TJ students did this before the admissions standards were lowered.


I thought AP Calculus AB/BC needs Algebra 1/2/Geometry and Precalculus, that's 4 years of math starting at 7th. How could anyone get AP Calc at 10th grade?


Take algebra 1 in 6th grade, or summer geometry. Stone Hill Middle has 50 kids taking algebra 2 in 8th grade. Those who do not go to AOS/AET can take AP Calc in 10th.
Anonymous
Once you accelerate in math, you can not turn back even if you have lousy grades. Better to go slower with good grades.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A kid who can't manage to get a good grade in Calc BC, by 12th grade, has no business taking a spot at TJ.

Kid didn't earn the spot. Equity admissions process offered it. And equity idiots are convincing the kid to stay there at the bottom of the class with mostly Cs and occasional B-. But only the misfit kid and their family know the misery of not being able to keep up with TJ rigor.


Fake news! TJ selection is stronger than ever now especially since they weeded out the kids who only got in because of test buying.
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