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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Arlington keeps current girls even when they should bring outsiders in. At least on the girls side- it feel like when you have a spot- you have it for as long as you want it.

Their coaching is just not very good. They rely on big fast girls and when they play against girls that have more skill, they lose. But that goes for most ECNL teams.

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ECNLDD wrote:It does happen, but rare, maybe 1 or 2 players every few years and usually it's replacing the bottom few non-starters. Congrats to your dc for making it.

As for the ECNL v GA inevitable debate and I know I'm biased, but there really is no debate, a club like FCV would leave GA in a heartbeat if they were offered an ECNL spot, the reverse would never happen as it would be a big downgrade in competition.

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This post is spot on from what I’ve seen. Most RL players seem to have to leave their club if they want to move up.

GA has some great teams but doesn’t have the rep as a league. Here in NOVA it’s FCV or bust I think. Not sure where the Metro/ Alexandria partnership went though

It's a shame that Metro/ASA lost the GA; lot's of talented players for ASA and good coaches but now no pathway, top talent leave at pre-ecnl age.

Metro/ASA had a handful of quality players in each age group. When they merged, several positions were held for ASA players who were the weaker girls. Each age group was at the bottom of the GA standings, except for the oldest girls. Coaches talked a good game but if they couldn’t recruit, develop and field competitive teams, were they good coaches?

They were not. Metro parents just did not know any better. They were “nice” so the delusional parents thought they were good coaches.

The coaches did not know how to motivate, inspire, and get the highest level play out of the girls. They played favorites and unfairly treated other players. They also did not take responsibility; there was a lot of finger-pointing at the kids as the losses continued. Many parents were definitely snowed by what the heard; for some reason they believed what GH and co told them. It was definitely challenging driving to away games, knowing a loss would be the result.

The girls have been scrambling since last year to find other teams to join. I know of a few players from 2006-08. A handful made ECNL and ENCL-R teams.

You may think this, but look at the coaches. Three are at Arlington. So they must have done something right. They ran a great program but couldn’t get the talent to see past the badge and hype.

Those three coaches are coaching the 3rd and 4th teams at Arlington. That’s where travel director place the weakest/least experienced coaches

You suggested the girls were the problem. That’s a poor joke; you can’t believe this for 1 second. You must be one of the coaches. Or they must have helped your daughter connect with a D3 school we’ve never heard of somewhere in Iowa.

If they ran a great program, why was the club in the red? The coaches actively recruited and selected the roster each year. They were responsible for the talent. Why was only one age group (04/05) competitive at all over 4 years? For most of the season, the teams practiced 4 days/week. There wasn’t a lack of training but definitely a lack of effective training. It was also poor coaching, and a bad business model of not having consistent feeder teams.

Lastly when coaches play favorites and unfairly treat a handful of players, losses will rack up. Those mistreated players will focus on playing to not make a mistake (will coach sub for me if I screw up?), while the golden girls (favorites) think they can do no wrong and don’t work to improve. Builds bad team chemistry.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter was with McLean for 5 years and they never moved anyone from ECNL-regional (formally green) to ECNL. If they had spots (and they had 2-4 per year) they went to girls transferring from other ECNL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was with McLean for 5 years and they never moved anyone from ECNL-regional (formally green) to ECNL. If they had spots (and they had 2-4 per year) they went to girls transferring from other ECNL teams.

two girls from green moved to ECNL u15 this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Arlington keeps current girls even when they should bring outsiders in. At least on the girls side- it feel like when you have a spot- you have it for as long as you want it.

Their coaching is just not very good. They rely on big fast girls and when they play against girls that have more skill, they lose. But that goes for most ECNL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was with McLean for 5 years and they never moved anyone from ECNL-regional (formally green) to ECNL. If they had spots (and they had 2-4 per year) they went to girls transferring from other ECNL teams.

two girls from green moved to ECNL u15 this year.

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At the ECNL level it’ll be dependent on team needs and if an incoming player is good enough to displace a current one. One example would be Union’s 08 team. Seems like they had a lot of movement but they also don’t look like they’re performing either.

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ECNLDD wrote:It does happen, but rare, maybe 1 or 2 players every few years and usually it's replacing the bottom few non-starters. Congrats to your dc for making it.

As for the ECNL v GA inevitable debate and I know I'm biased, but there really is no debate, a club like FCV would leave GA in a heartbeat if they were offered an ECNL spot, the reverse would never happen as it would be a big downgrade in competition.

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This post is spot on from what I’ve seen. Most RL players seem to have to leave their club if they want to move up.

GA has some great teams but doesn’t have the rep as a league. Here in NOVA it’s FCV or bust I think. Not sure where the Metro/ Alexandria partnership went though

It's a shame that Metro/ASA lost the GA; lot's of talented players for ASA and good coaches but now no pathway, top talent leave at pre-ecnl age.

Metro/ASA had a handful of quality players in each age group. When they merged, several positions were held for ASA players who were the weaker girls. Each age group was at the bottom of the GA standings, except for the oldest girls. Coaches talked a good game but if they couldn’t recruit, develop and field competitive teams, were they good coaches?

They were not. Metro parents just did not know any better. They were “nice” so the delusional parents thought they were good coaches.

The coaches did not know how to motivate, inspire, and get the highest level play out of the girls. They played favorites and unfairly treated other players. They also did not take responsibility; there was a lot of finger-pointing at the kids as the losses continued. Many parents were definitely snowed by what the heard; for some reason they believed what GH and co told them. It was definitely challenging driving to away games, knowing a loss would be the result.

The girls have been scrambling since last year to find other teams to join. I know of a few players from 2006-08. A handful made ECNL and ENCL-R teams.

You may think this, but look at the coaches. Three are at Arlington. So they must have done something right. They ran a great program but couldn’t get the talent to see past the badge and hype.

Those three coaches are coaching the 3rd and 4th teams at Arlington. That’s where travel director place the weakest/least experienced coaches

You suggested the girls were the problem. That’s a poor joke; you can’t believe this for 1 second. You must be one of the coaches. Or they must have helped your daughter connect with a D3 school we’ve never heard of somewhere in Iowa.

If they ran a great program, why was the club in the red? The coaches actively recruited and selected the roster each year. They were responsible for the talent. Why was only one age group (04/05) competitive at all over 4 years? For most of the season, the teams practiced 4 days/week. There wasn’t a lack of training but definitely a lack of effective training. It was also poor coaching, and a bad business model of not having consistent feeder teams.

Lastly when coaches play favorites and unfairly treat a handful of players, losses will rack up. Those mistreated players will focus on playing to not make a mistake (will coach sub for me if I screw up?), while the golden girls (favorites) think they can do no wrong and don’t work to improve. Builds bad team chemistry.

Hard to find coaches that don't do favoritism unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was with McLean for 5 years and they never moved anyone from ECNL-regional (formally green) to ECNL. If they had spots (and they had 2-4 per year) they went to girls transferring from other ECNL teams.

two girls from green moved to ECNL u15 this year.

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At the ECNL level it’ll be dependent on team needs and if an incoming player is good enough to displace a current one. One example would be Union’s 08 team. Seems like they had a lot of movement but they also don’t look like they’re performing either.

And they haven't promoted a player from '08 Green/RL in 4 years, despite cutting/demoting more than a half dozen.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was with McLean for 5 years and they never moved anyone from ECNL-regional (formally green) to ECNL. If they had spots (and they had 2-4 per year) they went to girls transferring from other ECNL teams.

two girls from green moved to ECNL u15 this year.

h

At the ECNL level it’ll be dependent on team needs and if an incoming player is good enough to displace a current one. One example would be Union’s 08 team. Seems like they had a lot of movement but they also don’t look like they’re performing either.

And they haven't promoted a player from '08 Green/RL in 4 years, despite cutting/demoting more than a half dozen.

I have seen that 08’ team and there is maybe one girl who could play ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was with McLean for 5 years and they never moved anyone from ECNL-regional (formally green) to ECNL. If they had spots (and they had 2-4 per year) they went to girls transferring from other ECNL teams.

two girls from green moved to ECNL u15 this year.

h

At the ECNL level it’ll be dependent on team needs and if an incoming player is good enough to displace a current one. One example would be Union’s 08 team. Seems like they had a lot of movement but they also don’t look like they’re performing either.

And they haven't promoted a player from '08 Green/RL in 4 years, despite cutting/demoting more than a half dozen.

I have seen that 08’ team and there is maybe one girl who could play ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

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Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

So I just came across this...and then instantly noticed the FCV parent bashing. The OG FCV parent just posted and said they could "argue" the point and laid out some points but went wrong when he/she called the Mid-Atlantic ECNL Conference "weak" which is where he/she went wrong.

Then, the first response was an ECNL parent who immediately insults FCV 2010s by saying they couldn't hang for 20 minutes with those teams which is where he/she completely went wrong which was followed by multiple parents calling FCV parent delusional.

Her is reality. It is the ECNL parent who is in fact delusional by saying the FCV 2010s couldn't hang and backed it up with nothing. Then some of you just jumped right on with him.

All I am pointing out is that FCV gets a lot of hate when just having a debate. Whoever posted the next "FCV is better than everyone" post was probably just a troll trying to stir the pot. That's what you get with anonymous. Same thing happened over at that other site. Only matter of time before somebody starts insisting it's a coach posting and making ugly nicknames or stories. Careful. Let's not start that trend and treat parents from other clubs with disrespect.

I'd happily debate why the FCV 2010s can compete with anyone or why Bethesda 2010s are the best in DMV. Can't really debate 2011s because nobody is close to Arlington. Could debate 2009s have turned into a complete toss up between four different clubs. 2008s is similar to 2009s.

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Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

So I just came across this...and then instantly noticed the FCV parent bashing. The OG FCV parent just posted and said they could "argue" the point and laid out some points but went wrong when he/she called the Mid-Atlantic ECNL Conference "weak" which is where he/she went wrong.

Then, the first response was an ECNL parent who immediately insults FCV 2010s by saying they couldn't hang for 20 minutes with those teams which is where he/she completely went wrong which was followed by multiple parents calling FCV parent delusional.

Her is reality. It is the ECNL parent who is in fact delusional by saying the FCV 2010s couldn't hang and backed it up with nothing. Then some of you just jumped right on with him.

All I am pointing out is that FCV gets a lot of hate when just having a debate. Whoever posted the next "FCV is better than everyone" post was probably just a troll trying to stir the pot. That's what you get with anonymous. Same thing happened over at that other site. Only matter of time before somebody starts insisting it's a coach posting and making ugly nicknames or stories. Careful. Let's not start that trend and treat parents from other clubs with disrespect.

I'd happily debate why the FCV 2010s can compete with anyone or why Bethesda 2010s are the best in DMV. Can't really debate 2011s because nobody is close to Arlington. Could debate 2009s have turned into a complete toss up between four different clubs. 2008s is similar to 2009s.

No point or need to debate/defend FCV here. There’s no sensible people that would understand. Seems like around here it’s either you’re a part of the ECNL cult or you’re nothing.

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Lasso_FC_Girls wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

So I just came across this...and then instantly noticed the FCV parent bashing. The OG FCV parent just posted and said they could "argue" the point and laid out some points but went wrong when he/she called the Mid-Atlantic ECNL Conference "weak" which is where he/she went wrong.

Then, the first response was an ECNL parent who immediately insults FCV 2010s by saying they couldn't hang for 20 minutes with those teams which is where he/she completely went wrong which was followed by multiple parents calling FCV parent delusional.

Her is reality. It is the ECNL parent who is in fact delusional by saying the FCV 2010s couldn't hang and backed it up with nothing. Then some of you just jumped right on with him.

All I am pointing out is that FCV gets a lot of hate when just having a debate. Whoever posted the next "FCV is better than everyone" post was probably just a troll trying to stir the pot. That's what you get with anonymous. Same thing happened over at that other site. Only matter of time before somebody starts insisting it's a coach posting and making ugly nicknames or stories. Careful. Let's not start that trend and treat parents from other clubs with disrespect.

I'd happily debate why the FCV 2010s can compete with anyone or why Bethesda 2010s are the best in DMV. Can't really debate 2011s because nobody is close to Arlington. Could debate 2009s have turned into a complete toss up between four different clubs. 2008s is similar to 2009s.

No point or need to debate/defend FCV here. There’s no sensible people that would understand. Seems like around here it’s either you’re a part of the ECNL cult or you’re nothing.

Well, prefer constructive debate. I don’t think anyone needs to say somebody is in a cult, ECNL or GA or USYS. That is just adding to the fire.