Just curious... how many girls move to ECNL from a lower team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We too looked to "move up" this try out season, and I would say in the close in to DC (ie BSC to SYC and then inward to the Beltway), my kid saw the same 10-12 kids who were clearly looking to make moves at all try outs. I don't know that they all landed, but my kid did. The one caveat, he had trained or guest played with most of the teams in the winter or spring so he wasn't unknown

Good point. Maintain contact with the teams all year not just at tryouts time. Ask to attend trainings with the team. Some teams have futsal over the winter where they allow outside players.

[Anonymous]

Super Y too

[Anonymous]

My daughter moved from a non-ECNL club to an ECNL team. She only went to the ID sessions and tryouts. I was surprised she made it but she is loving the team and coach.

We saw many of the same girls at our club tryouts and other tryouts.

[ECNLDD]

It does happen, but rare, maybe 1 or 2 players every few years and usually it's replacing the bottom few non-starters. Congrats to your dc for making it.

As for the ECNL v GA inevitable debate and I know I'm biased, but there really is no debate, a club like FCV would leave GA in a heartbeat if they were offered an ECNL spot, the reverse would never happen as it would be a big downgrade in competition.

[Anonymous]

ECNLDD wrote:It does happen, but rare, maybe 1 or 2 players every few years and usually it's replacing the bottom few non-starters. Congrats to your dc for making it.

As for the ECNL v GA inevitable debate and I know I'm biased, but there really is no debate, a club like FCV would leave GA in a heartbeat if they were offered an ECNL spot, the reverse would never happen as it would be a big downgrade in competition.

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This post is spot on from what I’ve seen. Most RL players seem to have to leave their club if they want to move up.

GA has some great teams but doesn’t have the rep as a league. Here in NOVA it’s FCV or bust I think. Not sure where the Metro/ Alexandria partnership went though

[ECNLDD]

Anonymous wrote:

ECNLDD wrote:It does happen, but rare, maybe 1 or 2 players every few years and usually it's replacing the bottom few non-starters. Congrats to your dc for making it.

As for the ECNL v GA inevitable debate and I know I'm biased, but there really is no debate, a club like FCV would leave GA in a heartbeat if they were offered an ECNL spot, the reverse would never happen as it would be a big downgrade in competition.

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This post is spot on from what I’ve seen. Most RL players seem to have to leave their club if they want to move up.

GA has some great teams but doesn’t have the rep as a league. Here in NOVA it’s FCV or bust I think. Not sure where the Metro/ Alexandria partnership went though

It's a shame that Metro/ASA lost the GA; lot's of talented players for ASA and good coaches but now no pathway, top talent leave at pre-ecnl age.

[Anonymous]

ECNLDD wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ECNLDD wrote:It does happen, but rare, maybe 1 or 2 players every few years and usually it's replacing the bottom few non-starters. Congrats to your dc for making it.

As for the ECNL v GA inevitable debate and I know I'm biased, but there really is no debate, a club like FCV would leave GA in a heartbeat if they were offered an ECNL spot, the reverse would never happen as it would be a big downgrade in competition.

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This post is spot on from what I’ve seen. Most RL players seem to have to leave their club if they want to move up.

GA has some great teams but doesn’t have the rep as a league. Here in NOVA it’s FCV or bust I think. Not sure where the Metro/ Alexandria partnership went though

It's a shame that Metro/ASA lost the GA; lot's of talented players for ASA and good coaches but now no pathway, top talent leave at pre-ecnl age.

Especially hard for older kids. It’ll be hard to find spaces on teams that are established now

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

Typical fcv dad. Arguing that fcv is as good or better than ecnl clubs and that they are improving or MA is soft and not deep. Fcv will always be on the outside looking in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

Don’t waste your breath. Typical FCV parents.

[Anonymous]

My son was identified (different years) after 1 ID session.

The first time the Club had him and a couple players come to practices an entire spring season (crazy) and that at the end they really had no answer for anyone 'trying out'. 3 dads kind of pressed and pressed and their kids were eventually put on the team. I didn't say anything and they said my kid was great, technically fantastic, smart (they had told the other dads (I was there)- their kids was missing X, Y and Z, etc) but only fault was my kid was small (late growers/puberty in our family). We took the team down which they said was only for him to grow and he could still practice with the ECNL team. The following Fall his coach wouldn't allow to do that and apparently there were many current pissed off families that had been trying to make the move up for years. Knowing what I know now, I would have run. It's obvious $$$ was a very big deal hooking and keeping people with false promises.

Next year, my kid was at a different club---went to an ID session on a whim. Directly after he was held after by the Coach, told they loved what they see and he should be receiving an email that night or next day. The things they pointed out that they liked about his play aligned with what I saw as his strengths as a player. He took the offer and has been very happy there ever since.

I found with my firstborn (big brother) that if you make the switch over too late (covid really screwed that up for him) there are almost zero roster changes after U16 for boys so very hard to break onto a team and is position dependent- needs, etc. I imagine girls its even earlier since their growth spurts/development and college recruiting happens earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

hmm didn’t FCV just beat BSC 2010s in a memorial day tournament? The day after playing them to a draw. And Union was in the same tournament but didn’t advance enough to play them. Doesn’t mean FCV is better but certainly in the same ballpark

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: If she tried out everywhere and didn't even make Brave and she's already doing all of that work, I wouldn't assume that she could close the gap.

Interesting comment given for the youngest Brave team, only Bethesda, Union, and VDA are better in the area. Arlington had an identical record, but Brave had a far superior goal differential.

Look at GA, ECNL is not the only league, I'd argue that FCV and Baltimore Armour are better than everyone else in the DMV outside of Bethesda, especially by the end of year when FCV got a result against Bethesda. Insignificant tournament, but signs of development for FCV team which is most important in these middle school years. You could argue potentially that VDA and Union are even with them but not Arlington and Brave; they only made playoffs at u13 this year because the mid-atlantic conference is soft and not deep at all. Sent 5 teams from the conference to playoffs, none got out of their group, proof is in the pudding.

What do you mean about “proof is in the pudding”? Everybody in the 2010 age group knows Union, BSC, VDA are the teams to beat. I don’t think FCV could hang with those teams for more than 20 minutes. The ECNL playoffs is a very high level with a lot of really great teams. DD has friends at FCV that did not make the 3 teams mentioned above.

hmm didn’t FCV just beat BSC 2010s in a memorial day tournament? The day after playing them to a draw. And Union was in the same tournament but didn’t advance enough to play them. Doesn’t mean FCV is better but certainly in the same ballpark

Good to see FCV parents are back on DCUM. Let the delusion begin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

hmm didn’t FCV just beat BSC 2010s in a memorial day tournament? The day after playing them to a draw. And Union was in the same tournament but didn’t advance enough to play them. Doesn’t mean FCV is better but certainly in the same ballpark

BSC tied Koge in national semifinal. Lost in PKs. Koge played overtime in national championship and went to PKs to win national championship. Are you saying FCV could potentially be as good or better than ECNL national champions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

hmm didn’t FCV just beat BSC 2010s in a memorial day tournament? The day after playing them to a draw. And Union was in the same tournament but didn’t advance enough to play them. Doesn’t mean FCV is better but certainly in the same ballpark

BSC tied Koge in national semifinal. Lost in PKs. Koge played overtime in national championship and went to PKs to win national championship. Are you saying FCV could potentially be as good or better than ECNL national champions?

Probably? FCV is the best club in virginia.